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But why is Klopp not working on improving his defence,too?Surely he can see that both VVD and Robertson look dead on their feet,considering how much they have played since they came @ Liverpool.
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Really good summary from the Athletic on Chelsea’s spending and FFP. Basically, the key is to hoover up the young talent like City and Chelsea do for their academies and then use the academies primarily as a revenue stream. Explains also why both clubs have been accused of paying parents illegally to get young academy players to their clubs. If you can get a steady stream of academy player sales, you can spend loads without FFP being a problem.
https://theathletic.com/4775684/2023/08/15/chelsea-spending-money-ffp?source=user-shared-article
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Looks like Salah wants out now aswell. So great few days for the reds
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What is the point in Carra and Neville putting together a coverage of how embarrassing it’s been for Liverpool. Tell us something we don’t know!
Jeez, it’s so dumbed down. We Liverpool supporters could tell you a story or two, ala Thuram, Zidane, Clubcall and Teamtalk!
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Sean, feel for Salah with his goal being chalked off. He was frustrated, then quietened. Probably come as a shock to be ordered off by Klopp. He would have been suited with Nunez. Hopefully a simple dust-down and goals from him this coming Sat.
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Very very true Mav. We’re just fed up of highlighting it because Klopp doesn’t seem to address it.
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FFFP Was always a ploy to stop City and Chelsea from becoming successful, and we know who drafted it. A classic example is when a certain team bids a player for £111M for a player, that is fine, but when Chelsea bid for him the same amount, that is a breach of FFFP? If that is not hypocrisy, then I don’t know what is. Not criticising Liverpool, as they saw and an opportunity to strengthen a position they need to strengthen, and they tried it. Fair play to the player for opting to join Chelsea. Then you see ex players criticizing him for choosing his career and happiness over the hype.
The money Chelsea paid for Caicedo is crazy, and i’m not happy as a Chelsea fan, because it is paying over the odds for his market value. But, i can understand why Chelsea would do that, because the situation has changed. I’m not also conviced on Lavia, i would have loved that money to be channelled to use for siginng another striker. we seem to be short in that department.
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Young_blue, you must be on the wind up if you think there would be the same ffp discussions whether Chelsea or Liverpool had bought Caicedo for £115mil. It’s not the Caicedo fee alone people are questioning. That was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. That and the Lavia deal takes Chelsea’s spending under Boehly to approaching a billion pounds in 3 windows, spending which football has never before seen. It’s blindingly obvious that Liverpool buying Caicedo for the same amount wouldn’t have got people bringing up FFP in the same way.
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I love Nepolean nearly as much as I love Buffy, but bloody hell, spend a billion in less than 3 windows, cause both UEFA and the FA to change the rules (again!), and wonder why everybody loves the Jammy Todgers about as much as they love a smack in the face with a mouldy haddock??
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Yeah Youngblue, Ed is obviously right on that point mate.
It’s clear why FFP is being brought up, it is hard for any of us to fathom how chelsea will balance it and how we will comply with FFP. I have faith we will comply and manage to balance it though as I assume Boehly is good at maths if nothing else.
He also self reported inconsistencies in the books under Roman. He knows what he is doing I hope 😆
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Banjo, Mr dynamite is under no confusion unless you can cite to the contrary? 😆
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I, too, have no doubt Boehly knows what he’s doing Lucky. Unlike others, I don’t have a problem either with the so called “loophole” of amortising deals over longer contracts to ease the FFP burden. For one, I don’t understand why it’s referred to as a loophole. Who ever told anyone there was a limit to how many years contract you could give a player? There’s a huge risk involved in stockpiling players on long contracts (albeit the wages are generally at a level where they’re still sellable). You’re taking a massive risk where you’re betting on the future ability of a lot of young players. If it pays off, you’re fine. If not, it could get tricky. You’re just simply balancing risk and reward, as every club should be entitled to do.
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P.s, youngblue, Roman had already built chelsea in to an elite club before FFP and Roman championed FFP to protect his investment and chelsea’s new position.
It was to stop others like chelsea, but we got lucky to be the first and get all the owner cash injections before the club needed to have to account for all expenditure within its legit incomings.
We can’t play victim of FFP mate it is absurd. Everton is a prime example of a true victim of FFP.
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Completely agree Ed 👍
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Ed,
People are talking about the Billion Chelsea has spent, but are also turning blind eye when it comes to sales Chelsea has been making in the last few years. that is the kind of hypocrisy i was talking about, i have to question why do the preimier league/Eufa always talk about closing the loophole in the same rule they made when ever Chelsea spends? I think Boehly is not stupid to just spend only. There is a reason why he is a billionaire.
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If everybody else was spending within their means, nobody really would pluck out any observation. Maybe at this point of time, Chelsea placed in the position they are because of so many players released. Perhaps going forward for season/s after, the proposition might not be the same.
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Youngblue, there has been lots of articles explaining how chelsea are operating and Ed himself posted one earlier too. Only today I saw sky sports news highlighting all our sales and the 200m+ received. Many opposition fans on this site are being very objective about it all in my estimation too.
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So what happens when a player isn’t deemed good enough after 2 years of his 8 year contract and is on £200k a week? He says he isnt going anywhere (as he is unlikely to get £200k anywhere else)? You are going to end up with a load of Winston Bogarde’s and Danny Drinkwater’s who you can’t shift and still paying them a fortune despite them not playing!
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Tugay, that’s exactly why the strategy has been about offering long term but, generally, low base salaries which are heavily incentivised. So the idea is to ensure they’re still young enough and of a low enough salary to keep them attractive enough on the market should they not make the grade after 2 or 3 seasons. Usually by that time, you’d expect to at least recoup the remaining book value of a player who may have, say, 5 of their 8 years left. Largely because you’ve not given them a huge salary, instead securing their long term future by offering a longer deal.
Take Mudryk for example. After 3 years of amortisation of his 8 year contract, you’re probably going to be able to recoup the remaining £50-£60mil if he doesn’t quite cut it. So, it’s unlikely to be a long term burden unless you’ve massively miscalculated the future ability of lots of players. Some will cut it and some won’t. The ones who do will likely finance the shortfall of the ones who don’t.
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Who know’s what the future holds, the Jammy Todgers are still sort of playing cheat mode but within the rules… although I am surprised many clubs with money to burn haven’t followed suit… (you know who you are!)
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