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26th June 2021 at 1:02 pm #180908
Tbh I think Kane to anyone will be a difficult transfer to unravel because of Levy who will likely hold out for a ridiculous fee.
Grealish out of the two imo is the most likely to go imo but for a very big fee although probably below £100m nobody will want to be the Club that pays a new PL record of £100m or lumber the player with a £100m price tag on his shoulders.
I think Grealish would be a great signing for any of the top PL Clubs.
Seemingly Sterling and Silva could move on? But I suspect for well short of £100m a piece.
It’s shaping up to be a very interesting window with limited outstanding players available and the top Clubs scrambling to sign the players they want.
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26th June 2021 at 1:04 pm #180909I agree Ed, I can’t see us getting £100M for each either, but if they do go I hope we get good money back, they have both improved significantly at City therefore their fees should reflect that. £75M each minimum for me.
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26th June 2021 at 2:05 pm #180911@Sean none of those things you listed are enough for me to class a player as “great” in my book. The fact Villa missed him so much is a lot to do with the quality of players (or lack thereof) they have on their books as well as the fact their entire tactics are “give it to Grealish”. I’m not denying he is a good player, but that is all he is at this stage. He could go on to become better, but at this point he is not that special.
I mean, going off your list of reasons why Grealish is top notch, I could use those same arguments about Maddison. The worldie he scored against City, he’s torn Arsenal apart a few times over recent years (as have many players for that matter). My point is, I like Maddison, he is a very good player, but do I think he is great? No. In the same way I don’t think Grealish is either.
As for my definition of proven, I think I highlighted that until he is tearing top teams apart on a regular occasion then I can’t really class a player as great. Under that same definition, I don’t think Bruno Fernandes is great either as he doesn’t play that well against really good teams._____________________________
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26th June 2021 at 2:38 pm #180913So City want Reece James? at this rate the papers will link every player to City just to generate headlines. but seriously assuming this is true, then Chelsea would be stupid to just listen let alone sell him to one of our direct rivals.
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26th June 2021 at 2:55 pm #180915Nine…Bernado is on his way back to Portugal or Spain. i hope we keep him though. Re. City..again….you make no reference to the other side of the story…what if City do get them , they both could fail, we have good experience in failed expensive players as well. I guess we have to fall back on the old saying….there is no guarantees in football. As a staunch City fan there is no way I see us favourites next season, we will do well but that is not saying we will win it either. I see a ery tough season, many players from most clubs will come back more fatigued than when the season ended and this will disrupt plans and new players bedding in. I do not see the season takeing shape until over half way through because of it
Sterling…think he maybE staying unless RM or Barca come in…..and they will find the money from somewhere Cannot see him going to another EPL side
Grealish,,,as many have pointed out, he is a very good player but Ed pointed out what he thought the difference was between playing and not playing on a regular basis….If you are not playing,, on the bench or not even in the squad team of the day….he will not be a Regular that is my meaning and logical to me and will happen at City
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26th June 2021 at 3:04 pm #180916You said he wasn’t proven foxy. I was trying to show he’s proven himself in the pl by highlighting a few games. He’s very very consistent in pl games including the big games. Still, very valid point about him not being great mate.That’s me going overboard a bit. He’s a very good player and he can go up another level at a better club.
Maddison is a good player but I wouldn’t put him in the same bracket as grealish. No were near at the minute to be honest
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26th June 2021 at 3:52 pm #180918Brian, I can see Bernardo Silva going to Spain if someone can come up with the money to buy him and meet his likely wages but I can’t see a Club in Portugal being able to do that, be a shame though he’s one of my favourite players in the PL.
Re Grealish “If you are not playing,, on the bench or not even in the squad team of the day….he will not be a Regular that is my meaning and logical to me and will happen at City” If that’s the case Brian there’s no point in City paying £100m for him and there’s no point in him going there because it will stunt his career if he becomes just a squad player at City imo.
If City play 60 games next season Grealish needs to be playing in circa 45 of them.
If I was Grealish I wouldn’t go anywhere near City at this stage of his career if what you are predicting is what’s really on offer.
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26th June 2021 at 4:10 pm #180919Young Blue. I don’t know where some of the media dig these rumours up from and this is one of their more crazy rumours. Reece James is contracted to Chelsea until 2025 he’s been at the Club since the age of 6 is one of our own and one of the most rounded wing backs in Europe and I can’t see any way that the Club would even consider an offer for him let alone sell him.
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26th June 2021 at 5:06 pm #180920Nine.Nobody knows, except media speculation, if 100 million is the final selling price. All these prices are crazy, valid or not, it is about time they were stopped. Some owners will want as much as they can get and make noises they want to keep the player. If City drop out of the Kane scenario I can see his price dropping significantly, the player will still want to move and his market value lowered. City do not want to pay more than they have to and have backed off before on players and clubs wanting too much. The selling club fixes the price.
Grealish..we have to respectfully disagree on this. There are squad players at City who have gained there “medals” but none are regulars, by that I mean , first on the team sheet…as good as he is, i do not think Grealish is at that level, maybe he can there but not at the moment.
I think at City for the moment, we have a squad, some will have achieved but know the time has come for change, some will go, no doubt about that.
The interesting part is how they will re stock the squad and I am sure they will include at least 2/3 Academy players. I also do not think City are planning just for next season but in future years, this also means as a club not just players. You cannot win every year, City know that, what you can do is be team that will produce a performance on a consistent basis. I am also sure they are planning for Peps successor as well as where the next CF is coming from The essence of being a good business and lets face it, that is what football is now_____________________________
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26th June 2021 at 5:52 pm #180923No worries Brian lots will and won’t happen between now and 11pm on the 31/08.
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26th June 2021 at 7:49 pm #180926Nine…I am the first to admit….I do not know everything , just enough to form a personal opinion and what I think the future is for City. I tend to think “outside the box” at times and think the most important thing for any club is how well it is run. Any business that ploughs so much money will look for a return, how long that takes depend very much on how it is run but nothing in the business world is forever.
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26th June 2021 at 8:15 pm #180929Hey nine, Grealish is 26 in September, if he doesn’t move ‘at this stage of his career’ when do you expect him to move. I don’t know a single City fan who doesn’t think Kane is too old for us and has left his chance of a big money move too late. Will that be Grealish’s fate too? Personally I would love both Kane and Grealish to stay at their boyhood clubs for their entire careers (just as I want Foden to stay with us), it makes the EPL more competitive and both have the chance to become legends at their clubs and will always be loved by their fans. However I also appreciate that both of them may want to win silverware and realise they may have a better chance of getting it elsewhere. This could be Grealish’s only chance.
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26th June 2021 at 9:40 pm #180930Let whoever buy what they want. Hope Liverpool find a way to Win Title 20 and be able to Celebrate. Ultimately, that’s all that matters to me.
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27th June 2021 at 7:19 am #180937Mike, I think you’ve grabbed hold of the wrong end of the tree trunk mate.
I think moving to City could be a great move for Grealish he needs to take the step up and play regularly for a top side and in the CL to further develop his career. I’m pro that and I’m pro City buying whoever they want.
However I wouldn’t want City to buy Grealish for circa £100m for him to sit on the bench and become a squad player that’s all which seemed to be what Brian was suggesting would be the likely outcome hence my response.
There’s more to come from Grealish imo and playing regularly for a top team like City especially in the CL would help bring that out of him which would be to his benefit and the benefit of England and obviously the benefit of City.
If Grealish moves to City I hope that’s what happens.
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27th June 2021 at 7:23 am #180938And I hope Nil Chelsea win CL 3 and get to parade Big Ears around the Streets in an Open top bus too sadly the pandemic has thwarted the both of us.
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27th June 2021 at 11:17 am #180943Nine…it is not a case of sitting him on the bench but he will be rotated and that means he will not be an automatic choice. We have only 3 players in that category and I am not even including Foden at this stage. I think City and otherswill find a way of rotating more and more as the game goes through more development. I just hope they do not replace whole teams at HT!!!!! We shall all see ina few weeks
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27th June 2021 at 12:37 pm #180944Brian, I think we’ve all exhausted this one and unlike face to face chats much is lost in hand written communiqués.
It’s even moved Mike to send a post to me that said “Hey nine, Grealish is 26 in September, if he doesn’t move ‘at this stage of his career’ when do you expect him to move.” Which was never in my thoughts.
I’ll attempt to put this one to bed from my side, there’s nobody other than Chelsea that I enjoy watching more than City and I’m excited by the thought of these City signings albeit a bit concerned it might turn the PL into another one horse procession this coming season but even should that happen I know I’ll still enjoy the season anyway and watching City play their brand of football.
I’m a football fan first you see and a Chelsea fan second and I love the football Pep has City playing and Grealish and Kane can only add to that. I would be disappointed though if Grealish didn’t play in the baulk of City’s games and I’m sure he would be too.
City though have to sign him first Kane too then we’ll see.😊 Cheers 9’s
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27th June 2021 at 3:02 pm #180945I dont think we will end up with either but it is good ongoing rubbish for the press to write when there is nothing else!
Btw is Sancho worth £80m? I dont think so based on what I have seen. Stupid fees, really stupid.
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27th June 2021 at 4:17 pm #180946I think you are right Nine, we have different views on this, I just hope we sign somebody else, for less money, than quoted, let somebody else pick up the big bills for them. A couple of weeks we will probably have answers to all the questions. Absolutely nothing wrong with your take on this Nine. I am just talking about what City fans I know think about it all…we could all be wrong!!!!
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27th June 2021 at 4:23 pm #180947Adlab, unfortunately fees, agents fees and the rest have all spiralled out of control, who is at fault the most….the seller for jacking the prices up, the buyer for paying, the agent for added so much to the cost. I do not know the answer but the football authorities are notdoing much about it either, at least they could make Agents life more difficult if not by passed. Supply and demand does not enter into it when you now have so many average players costing so much
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