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Depends how ambitious Poch is. If he wants to challenge for regular titles and take the next step up, Levy either needs to support him or Poch needs to leave. Or he might be happy what he’s doing on the salary he’s on. He’s at a crucial junction.
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to be fair i think poch will get more time and be given funds, they have spent big this summer (for them) broken their own transfer record, i think if he stays and is given a decent wedge in the summer it will change and improve, only he will know if he is likley to really get that support tho and its not just lip service form Dan the man
rumours today of united being willing to meet his buy out of Β£32m….
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Genuine question for united fans. Do you really want Poch? He’s won nothing.
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Steveo , I hope he stays and gets more transfer cash, he deserves that after what he has done for Spurs.
He has made a us a team that at least competes for those CL spots, something I never thought I’d see in my lifetime,then he gets us to a CL final !!!!!. I’ve had enough years of little expectations, at the same time watching Arsenal and Chelsea succeed year in year out, so just to be where we are now seems in itself unreal.I have to give credit to Levy as well, he has,through caution and sensible policies built an incredible training facility and ground, now we need the team to go with it.
I believe he will be given more funds in January and next Summer and if used wisely it could take us to the top table and that would bring a huge smile to this old mans face._____________________________
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442. no they don’t, I can’t see him managing another PL club he will go to Madrid or the Argentina job.
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N17, thats the ticket and one of the reasons im less upset than maybe i should be with my club, we had blessed period and it felt amazing at the time to ride that euphoric wave, but no team has a god given right, even the mighty united or liverpool….in our day it was united and chelsea and we JUST managed to do enough over a few years now look at us 3 clubs and we have been replaced by city and pool who themselves were in the football wilderness eating crap from rival fans for many years
its the nature of the beast
that said, the most frustrating thing for spuds and arsenal fans is when you do such great work to bridge that gap both in stadium, squad, manager and sponsors that we seem to stop and dont build on it (united are suffering because of this now) to stay at the sharp end you can never stand still, even one summer is to much as your now finding out and its this frustration of being so close but so far away and the fear of dropping back to previous levels….we are slowly getting back, a ways to go but looks hopeful, its why i think your club is on a knife edge with all of these things, if Poch stays and gets say Β£150-200m in the summer and many of his first chice buys, the squad and style will be refreshed and hope restored…if not then you slowly fade over time and other clubs move on
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Steveo, you are so right in every way, Arsenal are very much on the up and I have already said you will be top 4 alongside City, Liverpool and Chelsea . Spurs will dip out this season we have 3 players who could leave for free in the Summer which is unsettling at best and as good as Lo Celso, Ndombele and Sessegnon could be, it will take this season to settle, the best will be 5th or 6th.
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dont woryy just yuet, we are on the up but we will do all we can to mess up and miss top 4!
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Steveo , as will Spurs mate !!
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TBA, obviously the out of contract players are a bit of a worry but Spurs have enough in their squad to kick on from where they are and Poch is talking about January signings too which although historically dufficult if he can pull them off could add real impetus to their season.
If the draws are kind and the teams selected are strong enough there’s every chance of an FA Cup win imo which might kick start everything.
Be surprised if Spurs don’t finish top 4, I reckon they’ll put Southampton to the sword on Saturday and things will look a lot brighter then.
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A good question 442. I’d be interested in seeing what utd fans would answer. In the meantime I’ll give my own hypothetical answer, from the position of Hodgson being fired Sound good? I think it suits the situation Utd are in more than post Rodgers
Ok. The answer comes to me super quick. YES.
Utd and Liverpool both have a kind of tradition for attacking football. Poch matches that and really knows his stuff. You don’t need to win anything to be a top manager. It takes proper backing and a bit of luck. Poch was 90 mins away from a CL win, would those 90 minutes have a drastic effect on his qualifications for the job? Not in my mind. When you break down a career into such a single moment, you’re willfully corrupting the key information. Poch nearly pushed Spurs into the insane title race last season, 2 times. He got all the way to the CL final, knocking the best team in the world out and losing to the 2nd best team in the world. Pretty tough crowd there.
The issue with Poch now is backing. He has had some but not enough to keep some players from getting one leg out the door. This is not an environment that’s conducive to success. If he went to Utd now, he might still have a problem with backing. Although they might be willing to spend, they are incompetent and would likely waste it.
Sack Woodward, get someone who knows what they are doing in, sign Poch and Utd’s problems begin to end. I’m as sure about something like this as you can be (so 75% shot I guess that it puts them on the right track.)
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interesting point raised by someone, would Poch have even done as well as he has, had he not already had a young HK breaking through (who won the GB a few season running)?
he makes a great point that without this one player who was already at the club, he and indeed spurs would have achieved even less and maybe poch wouldnt be touted as the messiah?
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With regards to Poch, whilst itβs all very ordered and organised (and pretty effective) my problem with them is that they seem to lack a real personality on the pitch with the way they play. They just donβt seem to play off the cuff enough. Yes money obviously helps, but then you look at Klopp and even in his first part season at Liverpool he got them to two finals. There was an immediate impact and the club suddenly had personality again. In some ways, he reminds me a bit of Benitez. Thatβs certainly not a slur on Benitez, who is obviously a very good manager, and I will always fondly remember (and who is tactically still one of the best in the business). But I think with the way the games gone in recent years, you need to be very expressive now to get to the very very top.
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In the following image, you’ll see an example post by a controversial figure (Davinci), who is known for being a bit into himself, lacking diplomacy but he’s direct. I’ve mostly disagreed with him over the years, in terms of his stance but I am generally agreed with regards to the topic at hand (Henderson). My position is that Hendo is a poor DM. This whole debate is what finally convinced me to stop going to TT because we had 50 or so pages of the following mockery. I see it’s still going on with newer threads and the same pathetic bullying :
Just look at Gingers response. If you ever want to get rid of me from this place, don’t bother banning me, just invite that schoolyard clown.
Opinions will often clash and discussion might even get a little heated from time to time but on TT, you’re not allowed to have an opinion. This clown Ginger obviously can’t let go of the fact that he’s a doormat in the physical world, so he recharges his fractured ego by wearing down other people with his incredible stamina for the inane.
It is kind of amusing that not one of the click (sp?) ventured over here. Strength in numbers I guess π
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Spurs going forward don’t need Potchetino they need Winston Churchill
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Bricky… not 100% sure but I think Juan the Fourth was playing RB at Spuds before Argies, so the Argies thought they’d give it a go too… a very recent thing for Argie (to be fair, I forgot about him, when is he back? And why isn’t it sooner? π )
As for players Poncho might want to keep, I would agree with all bar Rose, as I said before I think Danny-boys game is going to reduce considerably when Wee Ryan is up and running. I also think he’ll want to keep Davies, an excellent squad player who might have limitations as a player and I’ve never doubted his commitment (which is a bigger issue right now I feel).
I also think you’re being a bit harsh on Winksy too, wasn’t his best game last night, that’s for sure, but I wouldn’t get rid of him at all, and I think Poncho rates him too. I’d certainly keep.
But as for the rest, Toby, Jan, Wee Erik, Vicky, Weirdy Beardy, I’m available if they need a lift to the airport!! 100% with you there on those three.
And yes, I think Dier should be getting a run, Disco/Dier can sure the RB/DM spots in the team, swap around and whatnot. Wasn’t Dier bought as an RB and then converted in DM?
Bigger question, cyber chum, would be who would you want to see come in during January/next summer??
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Dier was playing CB when we bought him but Poch likes him in front of the back 4. The reason why I kept Rose is easy his commitment is brilliant and we will need him while Sessegnon beds in.
In January he needs an established CB or 2 assuming Jan & Toby are off, Dybala if possible to add some flair and maybe an experienced RB while Foyth( who is injured)settles in .
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Does Spurs ever defend?Surely they have to,cant just keep going forward,right??
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Mav it was the worst defending I’ve ever seen by a Spurs side, I’d have got a hatrick and I’m on crutches!!!!!
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The only way forward for Spurs is to get behind Pochettino from top to bottom of the Club.
The problem players need to be sorted out those with contracts running out next Summer either need to be got to sign new contracts or be moved on as does some of the deadwood.
The alternative is that Pochettino moves on either by another Club appointing him and paying Spurs the Β£32m compensation that would be required to get him out of his contract or by Spurs sacking him and paying the Β£32m compensation he would be due as part of his contract.
Both of the above scenarios look highly unlikely to me and although there might be some room for negotiation on either outcome it would still be very expensive and paying Pochettino off at anything anywhere near the Β£32m the compensation in his contract is certainly not in Daniel Levy’s DNA and Pochettino’s star is no longer gleaming as brightly as it once was and that’s not just on the back of the recent Bayern defeat.
I have my doubts that Pochettino will be anywhere near the top of either Real Madrid’s or United’s most wanted lists now should they actively be looking to replace both their current Managers and it would appear extremely unlikely even if there was still some interest from them in Pochettino it is now likely to be luke warm given the potential size of the compensation payment required to get Pochettino out of his contract.
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