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  • #31420
    Brian blue
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      Mick, I would agree with you, in part, it may well have become a rich mans toy, how much depends on the investment and longevity of there stay, however when one of your senior Management stated that profits derived outside the ground, i.e. fan base, are more important to the club it does not say much for the price of loyalty. I believe our capacity at 54K is right for the club and with reasonable priced seats but I also believe our true fan base is 45K, that average will grow in time providing we continue to serve up the football we are enjoying and the way the club is progressing. This does not demean them in any way,just fact of life, Money is so ingrained in the game now be it from the USA, China Emirates or wherever it is difficult for one club to elude it is unfair on another, it is only the amounts and planning that are different

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      #31431
      nine nine nine
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        None of us get to choose our owners and it’s pointless using that as a stick to attack posters on here. City’s owners aren’t in it for the money though whilst 4 of the top 6 Clubs owners are all investors and in it for the money.

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        #31432
        nine nine nine
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          Oops wrong thread apologies.?

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          #31443
          Mikus LFC
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            Nine, I think City’s owners are actually there for the money, but they are understandably investing in longer term projects for when the oil runs out.

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            #31446
            Chucky McChuckface
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              Money to burn and in desperate need of good PR more like…

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              #31462
              Nike19
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                I think to some degree, a lot of this aimed at Man City is conjecture and only based on the evidence of Monday Night. Maybe somebody who’s a regular Match-goer may be able to give an insight, or some form of research.

                Mind boggling though and I’d understand if it was a Team struggling for wins or consistency and playing negative/dull football.

                As far as attendance goes, there is a correlation with the affiliation of the community, pricing and the direction of where the club is moving along with progression.

                I know at the moment with Leicester City, attendances have dipped to the point of tickets for games being available on General Sale. This is because fans are starting to tire of Claude Peul’s Brand of Football and his Team Selections.

                Many feel with the current squad, they are underachieving. That affects the mood and spirit and even in the South Stand where most of the noise comes from, fans just don’t have it in them to be able to muster 90 minutes in generating an atmosphere.

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                #31508
                Brian blue
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                  NB…it is called, over analysis, but now you have fans analysing every morsel they can find to throw at some club not to there likeing
                  I fail to understand why they just do not watch a game of football and leave the Sciene to the pundits with there football charts to show us how well they would have done it

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                  #31512
                  sean the sailor
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                    Of course fsg are abd other owners are in for money nine but they are also sports people who want win trophies

                    Fsg are excellent owners in my view. They have never lied to the fans and they also listen to the fans. It’s a business running a football club but most chairmen are competitors who want their teams to succeed and win trophies and of course make money

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                    #31513
                    nine nine nine
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                      Sean, as I said in my post for better or worse “None of us get to choose our owners and it’s pointless using that as a stick to attack posters on here”. That was the thrust of the point I was making in respect of City.

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                      #31515
                      Chucky McChuckface
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                        I do miss the Jack Walkers though, decide they can’t take it with them and want to see their childhood team compete for a change…

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                        #31519
                        sean the sailor
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                          Ye but nine you saod all other owners are in it for the money. I was pointing out our owners are sports people who want to win trophies aswell as being good businessmen so it’s not just all about the money

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                          #31520
                          nine nine nine
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                            Sean, as good as owners as FSG have been they are still investors and by definition in it for the money mate.

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                            #31522
                            sean the sailor
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                              Of course they are nine but it’s not just about the money as I’ve explained.

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                              #31524
                              nine nine nine
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                                Sean, success/trophies makes Fenways investment more valuable Fenway didn’t buy Liverpool for the glory of winning trophies they bought them as an investement to make a good return on that investment winning trophies will make that investment more lucrative. Nothing wrong with that it’s the strategy of most of the owners of the top club’s in the PL and I agree Fenway have been good owners for Liverpool.

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                                #31527
                                sean the sailor
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                                  Don’t agree nine. So they just want to win trophies to make more money?

                                  They are avid sports fans who want to win and be successful. Of course they want to make money but I totally disagree that they want to win trophies just for money.

                                  They want the club to be successful.

                                  So when the Boston red socks won the World Series got the first times in over 90 years. John Henry thought – nice one more money lol

                                  Imagine we won something big with these in ownership. They know the fans. They listen to the fans. If it was just all about money then they wouldn’t do half the stuff they do

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                                  #31528
                                  Mikus LFC
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                                    I think with John Henry it’s a mix between enjoying the rich man’s challenge of repeating his Boston strategy with Liverpool, making money, having fun, and soaking up the glory and good global PR it would give him with one of those big cigars.

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                                    #31532
                                    nine nine nine
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                                      Sean, did Fenway buy Liverpool to win trophies or to make money from their investment? I think the latter and that the former contributes to the latter.

                                      If you don’t see it like that no worries as always I respect your opinions. Cheers 999

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                                      #31533
                                      sean the sailor
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                                        Nine I said it’s about money but I don’t believe they are in it “just for the money” as you say mate

                                        All good in anyway chum

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                                        #31537
                                        Nike19
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                                          Maybe I’m naïve in trying to perceive some kind of goodness in this, but maybe there’s a small underlying intent whoever the investor is to want to be successful purely from a sporting point of view.

                                          Even Mike Ashley.

                                          With a lot of wealthy investors, the likelihood is that they have more than one finger in a pie.

                                          If the right level of attention, support and financial backing isn’t there, then this will reflect the club both on and off the pitch and supporters will smell it a mile off so the heart wont be there as such in wanting to attend.

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                                          #31539
                                          nine nine nine
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                                            Sean, maybe how I phrased it could have been better.?

                                            I’m sure FSG are delighted in their investment though and Liverpool are worth a lot more now than when FSG bought them. Cheers 999

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