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    maverick1973
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      #36427
      maverick1973
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        Interesting facts about the teams turnover.

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        #36428
        nine nine nine
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          #36430
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            “…meant it was difficult for United not to give him a chance.”

            Again, it’s all about when. Damn right it would be difficult (and stupid) not to give him a chance if he keeps this form up until the end of the season. Was it difficult to hold off though? Assuming that the people in charge have any skill or judgment then the answer is no.

            Let’s pretend that for some mad reason Ole had been pressure them to give him a contract now. You look at the position he’s in, the leverage he has and what he has to lose. Then it just doesn’t make sense because he’s in his dream job. He has very little leverage but the key thing is that he has everything to lose. He doesn’t strike me as a fool. It is a very stupid person who goes to the board and says “Right, I’ve done really well, give me a contract or else..”.

            So, that is a non-runner. If I’m in charge of that and someone comes to me I of course tell them “We got you in until the end of the season and honestly you’re exceeding our expectations so far. The lads enjoy their football again and it’s looking very good. We will open discussions on a contract in May, as planned.”

            Instead of the above.. I mean I don’t even believe that Ole was pressuring for a contract, I go back to what I said about Woodward and that he just doesn’t understand the game well enough to make an informed decision. The Glazers have got to wise up to this guy at some stage?

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            #36432
            nine nine nine
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              Mak, we’ve already agreed that United should have waited like you I think they’ve jumped too early but that’s done now.

              I suspect given the all the circumstances the United Board decided to clarify everything with next season in mind particularly who comes in and who goes out. That must be the only rationale.

              Woodward is definitely not a football man but he’s delivering revenue and profit for the Glazers and that’s what they’re in it for.

              Unfortunately United aren’t alone with the problem of the football side of the Club bring led by a non football person and it’s certainly the same problem at Chelsea with Marina.

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              #36433
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                It’s all well and good having the financial clout to be able to spend the most but it’s entirely different to:

                1. Being willing to spend the most
                And, most importantly,
                2. Being able to spend most wisely amongst your competitors

                Utd haven’t shown a great willingness or ability to be able to do either of those. Over the last 10 years, Utd have spent the most once! City are way out in front in terms of wanting to spend money. Utd are run in a way that ensures we service the debt and make money for the owners. City don’t have that issue. https://www.football365.com/news/the-biggest-spender-in-every-pl-season-and-how-they-fared

                As for the importance of spending wisely, Utd are proof that spending money blindly, with no vision is in many ways more dangerous than spending no money at all.

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                #36434
                maverick1973
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                  Agreed Ed,much rather just have given Arse Mikhy for free and stayed away from Sanchez.Darmian,Rojo,Jones,Bailly,Mata,Matic,Herrera,Sanchez,Lukaku,Shaw,Valencia,Young-money wasted on them all,period!!!

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                  #36435
                  maverick1973
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                    Jose to Bayern???

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                    #36436
                    Mikus LFC
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                      Man Utd have been panic buying in the transfer market for sometime making many signings in a desperate attempt to climb up the league. This started under Moyes and has continued ever since. One potential area of concern with Solskjaer is his experience in the transfer market. Whilst Man Utd will always be a big draw for players, players still like to go somewhere with a strong identity and philosophy with a clear plan. Does Solskjaer have a clear philosophy or has he simply found a simple formula for the players he inherited?? And add to that he’ll need to build and develop trust in a recruitment team. In that sense, there’s a long long way to go for Solskjaer yet.

                      On the other side of the coin, is the hope that Solskjaer will *develop* and *blood* the young academy players. Thinking more about the announcement in recent days, I suspect this has been a decisive factor in the decision the club has made – something the club has been keen to continue after Ferguson. If Solskjaer can at least deliver in this aspect of his job, then he’ll still play an important part of the future of the club, regardless of whether he lasts a significant time in the job.

                      For all the money in the game and star players, the most important factors that dictate the success of a club is how many leaders (ideally home grown) the team has and how effective the manager is.

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                      #36437
                      Nike19
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                        This is weird coming from a Liverpool supporter, but I would go along with exciting times for United;

                        in which for the rest of us, we’d have to be aware. If you think since Fergie leaving, there’s been 3 different Managerial appointments (no Ole in the equation).

                        For one reason or another, they’ve all survived, but minimal. Ole’s young and compared to his predecessors is United blood being a former player. He has already what I feel, a good Assistant Manager and Backroom staff – that in itself has room for the possibility of former United players to take up that type of role and opportunity.

                        3 years could go onto something further and special, but time will tell and I feel he has a very healthy level of support to nurture and guide him every step of the way.

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                        #36438
                        Nike19
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                          Mav @ 7:03, haha, Jose may as well be Freelance mate πŸ˜€ Just short stays for him, here there and everywhere lol (except us πŸ˜› )

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                          #36440
                          nine nine nine
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                            Ed, to be fair United’s net spend over the last 5 seasons has only been bettered by City and City are now having to be more prudent and I suspect that will continue with the UEFA spotlight on them.

                            I’m sure United will generously back Ole in the Summer transfer market and I fully expect United to be one of the biggest spenders in the Summer but getting the buys right is very important and there’s no magic formula for that every buy is a risk.

                            If United have a good Summer transfer window I expect them to challenge City and Liverpool for the title next season.

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                            #36456
                            maverick1973
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                              27-Speak for yourself m8,I was born to be eaten by Kylie & her other sisters,lol.

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                              #36625
                              Mikus LFC
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                                Just curious – do Man Utd fans now feel more confident that Pogba’s future is secure at the club following the announcement of Solskjaer?

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                                #36627
                                nine nine nine
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                                  Given Pogba’s relationship with Mourinho towards the end of Mourinho’s time there probably yes but if Real come calling?

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                                  #36628
                                  Mikus LFC
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                                    Nine, they look they’re already testing the water.

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                                    #36631
                                    maverick1973
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                                      Mikus-Just use the simple logic m8,@ United players like DDG & Pogba are struggling to make top4,@ Real for trophies every season………………

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                                      #36639
                                      Mikus LFC
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                                        If Pogba did leave, that would be a hell of shockwave for Solskjaer to deal with in the summer.

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                                        #36645
                                        maverick1973
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                                          Mikus-Only if he wants to be here,otherwise waste of time keeping an unhappy player.But only if he is sold for someffin like Β£150m,which would give us 2 players of say between Β£50m-Β£60m to rebuild,since Matic & Herrera are not the future,with the former being too old & past his best,and the latter not good enough & closing on 30!

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                                          #36647
                                          Mikus LFC
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                                            Mav, the problem would be though the perception of that to outsiders. Solskjaer is still a novice manager in the transfer market and the recruitment/transfer structure will have to develop. It really wouldn’t help you build a team if at the start, one of your best players leaves.

                                            One consolation is that Madrid probably his only main target, and they’ve not much money in the pot after the last few years and are now throwing Β£500 million at renovating the Bernabeu.

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