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  • #196904
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      Is De Ligt that good? I know he was highly rated at Ajax but, like Donny and Ziyech, seems to have struggled for game time since moving on from Ajax (which in itself worries me massively in that we’re linked to so many Ajax/Eredevisie players). Bayern seemingly in for De Ligt now too.

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      #196906
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        We talk about some of our PL clubs being a mess, mine included, but what an absolute disaster Barca have become. The De Jong deal supposedly held up by £17mil of wages owed to him by Barca which they can’t afford to pay him, yet they’re trying desperately to sign Lewandowski for what £30-£40mil who turns 34 next month.

        We should have walked away from the De Jong deal as soon as it became clear it wasn’t straightforward to get done.

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        #196908
        sean the sailor
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          How are Barca getting away with it though Ed?

          They continue to buy players but are financially in a mess? Surely rules are being broken but nothing be done?

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          #196909
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            No idea Sean!

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            #196912
            Adlab
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              They have sponsorship from Spotify

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              #196913
              nine nine nine
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                As well as selling the naming rights of the Stadium to Spotify Barca have also sold off a percentage of their future TV and merchandising revenues to raise some immediate funds.

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                #196917
                Tugay is God
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                  Eriksen. It’s Eriksen.

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                  #196918
                  Adlab
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                    Nine. That’s right. Securitisation, selling future revenue streams, is a sign of severe financial problem.

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                    #196919
                    nine nine nine
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                      True enough Adlab.

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                      #196920
                      sean the sailor
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                        Ye I get that nine mate but have they not received the money or something? Why can’t they pay de Jong money he’s owed?

                        I hope you are keeping well nine mate

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                        #196921
                        sean the sailor
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                          How the fuck did platibi and blaster get away with that

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                          #196926
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                            Tugay (re Eriksen), correcting Sean’s spelling is a lost cause 😄. See above 👆

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                            #196928
                            Adlab
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                              Blatter and Platini get off. Are they related to Boris johnson?

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                              #196929
                              Adlab
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                                Not sure why Chelsea want to sign Ake. He is a good backup player but not imo Top class.
                                If this deal happens:
                                In Hasland £51m, Phillips £45m Ortega (keeper) free
                                Out Jesus £45m, Sterling £55m, Ake£40m??, Players to Southampton £22m Porro £8m ,Itakura £5m,
                                Thats £91m out and a possible £175m in so I would think there will be further additions

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                                #196930
                                Adlab
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                                  Manchester City are reportedly ready to meet Brighton’s asking price and launch a £45m bid for full-back Marc Cucurella.

                                  The player has four years left on his contract after enjoying a terrific debut Premier League season. Graham Potter would rather not lose the full-back, hence his club’s steep price tag.

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                                  #196931
                                  Brian blue
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                                    Adlai…I will be surprised if the Swiss authorities will launch an appeal

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                                    #196932
                                    threeps
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                                      Adlab it is wrong to simply quote the transfer fees mentioned in the press. Haaland’s dad got a reported 17m, his agent 30m (not sure what happened here due to his death).

                                      For example just looking at transfer fees has Nunez more expensive than Haaland and a number of outlets have already used this to make a mockery of Liverpool’s transfer and get clicks. However when you factor in fees and wages over the length of the contract Haaland is 50m more expensive despite having one year less contract.

                                      Conversely, selling a player for 40m does not mean City get 40m. Someone like Sterling will get several million that City have to pay him as he did not request a transfer. This is part of the modern day football’s contract called the loyalty bonus. Messi for example got a 2nd payment of 39m when he left Barca as it was in his contract and he did not request to leave. Pogba got 3.8m when he left Utd recently.

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                                      #196933
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        “Not sure why Chelsea want to sign Ake. He is a good backup player but not imo Top class.
                                        If this deal happens:”

                                        Adlab there aren’t a lot of Centre Backs available Chelsea have lost 2 Centre Backs and are about to lose another Ake was developed at Chelsea so knows the Club well and he’s as good if not better than Christiansen.

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                                        #196935
                                        Adlab
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                                          Threeps. Yep of course you are correct and all deals are different. Maybe we should look at those quoted figures as the “gross” amounts but still valid for a sort of comparison.

                                          Anyhow we will still be told in the press that we are spending loads but.?.its ok for others!

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                                          #196936
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                                            I disagree Adlab. I think the press have been very kind to City in recent times. As I said before, the Pogba quoted fee has always included agents fees and we were absolutely hammered for paying Raoila what we did when we got Pogba. I can’t understand why but the press seem to make very little mention of the agents fees in the Haaland deal which is baffling considering the unprecedented size of them. It’s extremely deceptive to say City got Haaland for £51mil.

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