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  • #196777
    Adlab
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      Jesus has agreed terms on a 5 year deal to go to Arsenal. Β£45m. Nearly the same as Haaland.
      I wish him good luck as he has always given 100% for us.

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      #196778
      Nike19
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        Time goes so quick or it certainly feels that way and we have to accept players in their minds will want to take a different direction for what ever reason.

        We need more competitiveness from other teams to make the League more exciting and less predictable.

        Top Signing For The Gunners.

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        #196782
        Adlab
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          At the moment Chelsea are showing and proving what we all know. To be successful, although no guarantee, you have to spend loads of money.
          I will be sad to see Sterling go as he is a top player at his peak. Selling to rivals? I hope it doesn’t come back to bite.

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          #196783
          Bluemoon
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            I’m glad we getting rid of Sterling and Jesus, 2 players who manged to scrape into the team because of a very heavy fixtures congested list. It’s right what Pep is doing, a team has to upgrade every season if it wants to remain successful.

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            #196785
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              Allegedly Xavi tried to negotiate to have Maguire included in the De Jong proposed deal (confirmed by one of the best Utd sources). That means Xavi joins Pep, Mourinho and Conte as managers who have either tried to sign him or spoken very glowingly about him (Conte compared him to Terry!). I still think there’s a player in there despite an awful season but we’ll see if he can play in a side who want more control of the ball this season.

              Jesus I don’t rate at all. I think he’s been carried by better players for the duration of his City career. If ever he had a chance to establish a starting spot, it was last season when he was the only senior striker available and he couldn’t even do that. Plus it’s Arsenal/Arteta, who aren’t a threat. Sterling I like a lot and I can’t believe they’d sell him to Chelsea. I don’t think they’ll miss him as they have plenty of players to take his place but it’s still strengthening a rival.

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              #196786
              Nike19
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                I think I’m slightly in the opposite camp re Jesus. Just off the top of my head, I think he contributed vital goals, but obviously now that Haaland has signed, that void is filled. I don’t think it’ll hamper City greatly even if they were to lose Sterling as they’re still the side that would be a favourite to lift the Title once again.

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                #196787
                Adlab
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                  Β£70m for Frenkie de Jong. Don’t know him at all. Is he a Β£70m player? Does anyone know?

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                  #196788
                  sean the sailor
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                    Not sure about Jesus. Don’t rate areta. Huge season or him. Needs to start well

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                    #196789
                    sean the sailor
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                      Raphfina to Chelsea done.55m

                      Great signing

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                      #196790
                      Brian blue
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                        Jesus and Sterling contributed significantly over the seasons, both never gave less than 100% for the team. Sorry to see them go but it is right for club and player.

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                        #196791
                        Mikus LFC
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                          Boehly seems to be picking up where Abramovich left off.

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                          #196792
                          Adlab
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                            I think we will miss Sterling. He fits into the way we play. I’m not sure Grealish is ad good.

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                            #196793
                            sean the sailor
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                              Maddness to sell sterling to Chelsea.

                              The only thing is Chelsea are looking to or buying wife players to play into central positions behind the front man and I think that’s not worked for some players like Pulisic, Werner and even Ziyech who played wide right for Ajax. Still raphfina and sterling are excellent players but they could do with fill centre back positions as they are over loaded in with attacking options unless Pulisic Werner zyirch others go

                              Fully expect Chelsea to sign two centre backs aswell

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                              #196794
                              nine nine nine
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                                Nothing is done yet Sean still a way to go on both Sterling and Raphina it’s never done imo until you read confirmation of the transfer on the official Club site. I suspect if Sterling signs the plan will be to play him through the middle.

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                                #196795
                                Adlab
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                                  The thing that really bugs me is that other teams spend enormous sums, in some cases creating further debt, and the talk is about the players and where they will fit in etc. Fair enough. When we sign anybody the first focus is on the cost.
                                  Can anybody explain the FFP rules as they now exist?
                                  This is what I get so far:
                                  The amount that clubs are permitted to lose over a three-year period will double from €30m to €60m.

                                  Under the new regulations, European clubs will be limited to spending 70% percent of their revenue on wages, transfers and agents’ fees.

                                  When will they start?
                                  UEFA’s new rules will come into effect in June but clubs will have three years to implement them.

                                  It is expected that clubs will be allowed to spend 90% of their income in 2023/24 and 80% in 2024/25, before the rules come into full force in 2025/26.

                                  What punishments will rule-breakers face?
                                  “Breaches will result in pre-defined financial penalties and sporting measures,” UEFA has said.

                                  In addition to fines, likely punishments include points deductions in domestic leagues, demotion to lower-ranking competitions and a total exclusion from UEFA tournaments for severe rule-breakers.

                                  What has been said?
                                  UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin was quoted in a statement as saying: “UEFA’s first financial regulations, introduced in 2010, served its primary purpose.

                                  “They helped pull European football finances back from the brink and revolutionized how European football clubs are run.

                                  “However, the evolution of the football industry, alongside the inevitable financial effects of the pandemic, has shown the need for wholesale reform and new financial sustainability regulations.

                                  “These [new] regulations will help us protect the game and prepare it for any potential future shock, while encouraging rational investments and building a more sustainable future for the game.”

                                  UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin pictured last month at FIFA’s 72nd congress in Doha

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                                  UEFA’s statement added: “While the acceptable deviation has increased from 30m euros over three years to 60m over three years, requirements to ensure the fair value of transactions, to improve the clubs’ balance sheet, and to reduce debts have been significantly strengthened.

                                  “The biggest innovation in the new regulations will be the introduction of a squad cost rule to bring better cost control in relation to player wages and transfer costs.

                                  “The regulation limits spending on wages, transfers, and agent fees to 70% of club revenue.”

                                  What were the old FFP rules?
                                  Under the current FFP rules which are being replaced, clubs can only spend €5m more than they earn during a three-year period.

                                  But clubs are allowed to exceed this limit to a maximum of €30m if those losses are covered in full by a payment from the club’s owners.

                                  Significant allowances were made in recent years to offer clubs leniency because of financial losses incurred as a result of the COVID pandemic.?……….

                                  But nothing on debt:equity levels. Clearly designed to protect certain clubs here and in Europe. Also no differentiation is made between established clubs and say newly promoted clubs.

                                  Imo it is a must for stability to ensure gearing levels are kept at stable levels. This would essentially mean owners would have to invest more to fund purchases and not use bank debt or securitisation (selling future revenue streams such as season ticket sales or TV revenue)

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                                  #196796
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    “The thing that really bugs me is that other teams spend enormous sums, in some cases creating further debt, and the talk is about the players and where they will fit in etc.”

                                    Hilarious Adlab you take care as you lob rocks through your Glasshouse!🀣🀣🀣

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                                    #196797
                                    threeps
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                                      What punishments will rule-breakers face?

                                      Nothing at all. PSG and City have already proven that.

                                      Adlab why are you always playing the self-pity city card? Can you not understand why a lot of fans don’t like what City have done? It wasn’t that long ago you were getting spanked 8-1 by Boro but then you won the lottery and proved that unlimited money can buy all the success (minus CL for now!) in football. You could argue Chelsea did the same but they were a pretty good team already, showing potential as challengers. Teams like Utd have huge debt and that is the way they are run but they didn’t just come from nothing (football wise) very rapidly like City.

                                      Putting those down for accumulating debt because your team got lucky with an investor with virtually unlimited funds that put you way above your station is a bit rich to be honest.

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                                      #196798
                                      Adlab
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                                        Threeps/Nine.
                                        Take your points of course. Either have proper FFP that effects all clubs or scrap the charade.
                                        The corruption in football is most likely still there. Whenever there is big money there is always corruption by a few at the top.

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                                        #196799
                                        Brian blue
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                                          I think this is less about City or any other team but a way to find effective control of where the financial gain is and to who? We know that UEFA/Fifa have corrupt officials that is why there is a court case going on. This is outside any football logic. There will always be rich clubs and the clubs who do not have this same wealth, this happens in many walks of life besides football. We have a war going on because one country wants another and has the recourses to do so. I am all for a fair set of rules but it must be based on a clean sheet approach and not reactive to to days scenario or, all you do is to put a sticking plaster on in the hope it will solve the problem. I would also the cost of the management of the game be scrutinised and clear and obvious calamity of Qutar is not repeated….We have a lot to learn,

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                                          #196800
                                          Mikus LFC
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                                            As has been talked about before, the formation of the Premier league in the early 90s was the turning point and created the culture we have now whereby clubs became very rich and/or attracted billionaires to invest. To try and put some kind of lid on it all now is futile unless there is a genuine desire and big enough movement to turn things around. But do the fans really want things to change? Only if they’ve not got their own billionaire owner but if they suddenly did get one then they’d shut up pretty quickly. And therein lies the problem.

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