Round 4: Forgot about that…

[Mikus LFC]

The FA Cup lost respect years ago, and the CL top 4 finished it off. The prize money is also pitiful. That’s the painful reality now. Also Liverpool, whilst way out in front in the league, still don’t possess the quality in depth that City have, as was shown today. So whilst it’s unfortunate on Shrewsbury, Klopp is right not to compromise the winter break. Some of our players have been playing non stop for well over a year now.

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[sean the sailor]

I’m disappointed nine and pagan. I have to say. He’s said he’s told the guys they could have a week off during the winter break. I would have liked to see a team out very much like tonight as some players need games. It’s a huge pity but the lads need a break and were promised a breAk

Only question is why is the replay scheduled for a time when it’s supposed to be a breAk? When the pl said no co petite games in that week and not to organise friendlies etc?

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[Pagan]

Sean, maybe because the PL and FA are separate organisations….Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

Mikus and Sean, sorry lads but there are no excuses to hide behind it’s just plain wrong and hiding behind a letter from the PL saying don’t arrange friendlies and overseas tours in the winter break as justification reflects poorly on Klopp and makes it doubly wrong imo and Klopp not even being prepared to manage the team reflects very badly on him.

If Liverpool didn’t want to risk a replay impacting on their winter break Klopp should have picked a stronger team today when they knew when any replay would be scheduled.

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[sean the sailor]

Very true pagan but surely they need to work together when a winter break has been organised? Common sense no?

Should be no replays full stop in anyway mate. That should have went straight to pens

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[sean the sailor]

Ah you maybe right nine. I’m sure it’s going to be up for debate over the next few days.

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[Mikus LFC]

Klopp has had injuries to his reserve first team players such as Keita & Shaqiri. Matip & Fabinho are clearly rusty having come back from injury. And other players like Mané (currently injured), Salah and Firmino have been playing non stop for a long time, even playing through last summer in the AFCON and Copa America.

I don’t care how much these players are paid, they are still human beings. And Klopp is absolutely right not to drive them into the ground. People still need a break. City have the luxury of a deeper squad having spent a lot more than us in recent years.

And Klopp needs a break from games too.

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[nine nine nine]

Seriously Mikus why even bring City and what they’ve spent on their squad into it it’s irrelevant.

Klopp knew the dates of the winter break and the date of the replay if he didn’t want to risk a replay he should have picked a stronger team.

Liverpool could put out a strong team of players who haven’t been overworked supplemented by young players there are players on the fringes who clearly need some game time but not a complete youth team and Klopp has a responsibility to manage the team in the FA Cup. You can’t justify the unjustifiable mate.

The worst possible outcome now would be for Liverpool to win the replay and then go on and win the FA Cup completing the double I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen now!

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[Mikus LFC]

Or the FA should scrap replays.

As for the stronger team we could have played, I’ve already dealt with this in my post above with regards to the burnout of players and injuries to other players. Klopp does not have the luxury City had. That’s why I brought them into it.

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[nine nine nine]

Again whether there should of shouldn’t be replays is irrelevant Liverpool FC and Klopp knew the rules of the competition when they entered the competition and that there would be replays in rounds 3 and 4.

I can only imagine the reactions if this was Spurs and Mourinho who find themselves in the same situation and who to their credit have taken it on the chin.

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[Brian blue]

Then which supporters were pleased to have such a winning team without spending on a squad. What is the difference in squad numbers anyhow? Keep in mind we do not have all world class players as well, a few are a long way off that. I think Mr Klopp trusted his youngsters and that did not pay off, they are just not ready for this kind of game against a very enthusiastic team, to day, they were out pressed.I am sure he will get it right for the replay. Also, if he really wanted to rest hs stars why were they on the bench? To call them on the field when things got sticky is something I am sure he did not foresee. Not to worry, all is not lost I am sure you will be back on track next game You cannot compare them to City or any other team, to day was your own making every team has injuries and fatigue, every team knows the rules of the competition.

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[nine nine nine]

Below is the winter break without and with replays Southampton are the worst affected and Newcastle the least affected.

Both Spurs and Liverpool have an 11 day winter break even allowing for the replays.

Newcastle 15 days 12 days
Liverpool 14 days 11 days
Tottenham 14 days 11 days
Southampton 14 days 10 days

I don’t have anything against Liverpool and I would have said the same even if this were Chelsea because the FA Cup is a special competition imo and deserves greater respect than this as do Shrewsbury.

There was every chance of Liverpool doing the double this season they might well beat Shrewsbury in the replay and go on to do so but I wouldn’t want to see them win the FA Cup this season under these circumstances. Hopefully it won’t come to Liverpool playing a youth team and common sense will prevail with a bit of give and take from both the FA and Liverpool if that happens I would be the first to congratulate Liverpool on achieving the Double if that’s what they do.

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[Pagan]

We need to keep the replays in the FA cup, it’s a great source of income for teams from the lower leagues. If the big clubs don’t want to play in the cup then they should withdraw, however it’s a once in a lifetime decision, there’s no coming back when you don’t qualify for Europe….Pagan

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[Anonymous]

I think the only teams who can complain about the replays are the large clubs, the only club I can consider this to hit this year is Liverpool, given the commitment to the club world cup.

It was the same when United were in it, and for one year, chelsea too. Sympathise with Liverpools fixture congestion but as fans, I guess this is the zenith of being a european cup champion… again… Lucky lot. Klopp might think its a bit too heavy metal but fans love it. Well i did. 🙂 Hands up liverpool fans, you really not loving all the games thick and fast?

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[Anonymous]

I don’t have an issue with Klopp not playing any first team players during a winter break or even not during a winter break. that’s his choice and he has seen the potential consequences of this if it doesn’t go to plan. he picked a similar team against premier league Everton and they won so i completely get his confidence in the younger players dto get the job done.

my issue though is Klopp himself saying he also won’t be part of it. it would be a great opportunity for the young players to be managed by the best manager in the world at the moment at one of the best stadiums in the world. I think it is a bit disrespectful towards Shrewsbury as well who 100% earned the right to play against klopp and his team. but he has the right to make that decision. it’s completely hypothetical but I wonder if he would have made the same decision had it been against man u or city.

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[threeps]

“The worst possible outcome now would be for Liverpool to win the replay and then go on and win the FA Cup completing the double I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen now!”

I can just imagine the fume Nil is having after reading this! 😀 YOU HATE US!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand Klopp’s position, he is doing his best to manage his team. The team that he has got playing to an incredible standard and is chasing a possible record breaking title win and to defend it’s European crown. He has long championed the need of players and that they play too much. His native Germany get 4 weeks off in winter. Pep has also made similar comments.

Having said all that I hope his threat to play only u23s and not be in the dug out himself was just a knee jerk reaction. A team similar to yesterday would be ok for me, a blend of youngsters and some fringe seniors or those needing match fitness. I don’t think yesterday’s team was disrespectful to Shrewbury or the competition.

Disagree with anyone saying the FA Cup is a special cup or whatever, that died years ago when the FA screwed every penny it could from fans with Wembley semi-finals and stupid kick-off times for TV. The magic I remember from my childhood is long gone.

Maybe Klopp is just pissed that he has to change his flights for his 2 weeks he has booked in Majorca?

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[nine nine nine]

threeps, that comment from me you quoted at the start of your post was a bit too harsh from me and I apologise for that and I have tried to clarify my views in the final para of my last post.

I played the FA Cup every day of my school holidays as a kid with jumpers for goal posts and it was the trophy above all others that I wanted Chelsea to win but I accept others might not hold the FA Cup in the same high esteem as I do but it will always be a special Cup to me and track back a few years and it was a competition that Liverpool fans were anxious to win.

Good to see we’re singing from the same hymn sheet though with regards to a solution to this current problem. Cheers 9’s

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[Pagan]

Threeps, the FA cup died (well became a little bit ill) not because of the FA, but because of the clubs chasing the dollar.

Yes the highlight of playing at Wembley in the final was a little diminished by the semifinals being held there, but ultimately it’s the clubs to blame for the current state it’s in….Pagan

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[sean the sailor]

I see no reason why we cant field a team similar to yday as a lot of players need games

Lovern, Matip, fabhino, Keita, Shaqiri, Milner all need playing time.

The fa cup is dead to the bigger clubs but it’s still magic for the smaller clubs. I loved it when I was younger and it’s a bit sad the way it’s gone.

Top 4 is much more important to clubs then the fa cup but we saw what it meant to Shrewsbury yday. Now they can go to anfield and play. It’s huge for their club

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[threeps]

Dont worry Nine no offense was taken. My response was tongue in cheek at the thought of our favourite Leicester resident going berserk.

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