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United’s megastore was forced to close. Something needs to be done about the Glaziers because something needs to give. We can’t have this unsettlement and just bad vibes.
Not good impressions created for a new Manager walking into a job and getting to know everything.
The fixtures going forward I must say don’t look too good. He needs to establish a first 11 and a best 11 that is good enough to get results. And gradually build an identity. As Sean rightly points out, you need at least 3 windows to clear out and bring in. Ronaldo needs to leave. Maybe at best, a Top 6 finish is the realistic aim and good cup runs.
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Foxy, 100% agree on Liverpool’s midfield. We need somebody creative and energetic but strong. Tiago unfortunately on the sidelines as with many, but Naby Keita should return. Personally, I don’t think Henderson should start as many matches. It’s all about opinions as they say.
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United to sign Rabiot! Any good? Not that familiar with him.
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Was a clear pen Adlab as I said yesterday. One of those that is never getting overturned though the way VAR is at the moment.
Rabiot I don’t rate at all. Another last minute panic buy because we spent too long pursuing the likes of De Jong who was never coming.
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This is why I think you should have gone for Conte Ed. Yes I know there are worries about him being a short term manager, but he would certainly have shaken things up at the club which you need big time and he wouldnβt have tolerated this. Ten Hag I think is too nice in that sense. The whole situation just feels like rinse and repeat from previous appointments.
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Oh I don’t for a minute think he’s too nice Mikus. I’ve been reading a lot about him and there are no suggestions he’s too nice. His blunt response to those who left the Vallecano match late, including Ronaldo, was evidence of that. “Totally unacceptable” he said and then dropped him for the next game. I do, though, think he’s the type of manager who needs a structure to succeed. In hindsight (seeing very little has changed in the structure) Conte probably would have got more out of this squad. Ten Hag is a long term builder of squads and clubs. Conte is a quick fix, win, move on kind of manager.
Far too early to judge the appointment of Ten Hag yet anyway.
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Iβm sure Ed, and I agree he needs the structure and not necessarily writing him off yet, but think Conte would have been that bit more ruthless.
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I see Paul Tierney is from great Manchester..his decisions over the last year have been dreadful. Really plain as day decisions not given. Mctwoniey had to go ydsy. Martinez clear pen, didnβt send Harry Kane off v Liverpool for that career ending high challenge, no clear jota pen and no handball againest Rodri for Everton
5 absolutely baffling decisions. Not saying there is any conspiracy theory but thereβs a trend of absolutely ridiculous decisions
Heβs the ref for us g palace next week π
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He’s just a shit ref Sean π. Given plenty of dodgy decisions against us over the years. Utd had an awful season last season for dodgy decisions. I think Liverpool and City topped the league for benefitting from VAR decisions last season. We were due some dodgy decisions in our favour albeit I’d much rather have them when it means something to the result!
Besides Sean, you needn’t worry about the next match. Paul Tierney is one of the “best” refs for Liverpool as far as win % goes, proving he’s a shit double agent if he’s supposed to be a Utd fan in disguise π
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Thatβs it Ed, as I said no conspiracy theories. Heβs just a terrible ref.
I just couldnβt believe those decisions yday.
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No they were pretty terrible Sean π. Thankfully no bearing on the result. Brighton deserved all 3 points.
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Going back to the Brighton game and it didn’t effect the result but how did VAR not ask the ref to have a look at the possible penalty.
Forget which teams were playing etc but I don’t blame the ref but there is no doubt that it was a clear and obvious error. At least look at it.
Players, managers and fans must despair at such a call. Imagine if it was crucial to the game and Brighton only drew or whoever.
As above Rodri handball, Kate foul etc. These so obvious ones should be picked up. I fear the worst for the season._____________________________
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Var did look at it adlab. They agreed with the ref which is the concern but I get you. Why didnβt they intervene and ask him to have another look? As Ed says, heβs a terrible ref making absurd and crazy decisions.
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It was definitely a pen, as I think everyone agrees with, Adlab. Unfortunately, the bar is set very high for VAR to overrule decisions. It’s a flaw with the current setup and needs looking at. No idea why you fear the worst though. City did pretty well out of VAR last season. Why on earth we’re still talking about a decision that had no effect on the result is a bit baffling though.
Did anyone see this where Klopp was complaining about a dry pitch?! π. Perfect response from Fulham
https://www.sportbible.com/football/fulham-liverpool-jurgen-klopp-dry-pitch-20220807
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Saw that Ed π
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Have a read of this Adlab. Explains it perfectly re the pen. It’s not that the VAR agrees it wasn’t a pen, it’s that they don’t deem it a “clear and obvious error”. Huge difference and a big flaw in how VAR works. I’m not sure what the argument is for this way to operate VAR. I assume they’re concerned about undermining the onfield ref and making that person redundant, effectively allowing games to be ref’d by VAR completely.
The referee, Paul Tierney, may not have seen the nature of Martinez’s challenge. But the VAR, John Brooks, decided Tierney had made no “clear and obvious error” not to award a penalty.
The Premier League said before the season began that it would continue with its high bar over interventions, doubling down on its policy of last season, and it’s situations such as this where it’s tested to its limit. There wasn’t a single VAR overturn across the opening weekend, when the average is usually just under one every three games; that probably tells its own story.
Interesting that the Bundesliga is going the other way though. Will be interesting to follow.
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More here. Wouldn’t be surprised to see this change to be in line with the Bundesliga when the opportunity arises
When you have such a high bar, the VAR is effectively looking for reasons to support the referee, rather than assessing an incident on its merits. It’s why this penalty wasn’t given, and why other incidents won’t get punished at times. This high bar for “clear and obvious” removes much of the VAR’s own subjectivity to advise a review, and is why supporters get so frustrated.
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Ed…good post . I am still of the opinion that it is technology managed by humans..that is not the way it should work….a half way house. I am not against VAR but the technology needs to be developed further…..then you can do without the human interference from a panel. Then again, being cynical of these things…was it designed for the an industry outside football??????
I believe to make the game better, the Football “Gods” should make a very investment in a Referees school, I mean a big one and uplift the standard significantly. Leave VAR to goalie decisions only…let the game flow better. I would also get rid of the Yellow card and make a “sin bin” for 10 minutes. Any Arguments with Ref a straight RED…..I know…I am an old codger but that is my opinion…PS…a special message for goalkeepers….when you catch the ball in the air…stay on your feet and not dive to the ground, hug and kiss the ball and waste minutes…..
An article in the paper yesterday made the comment that fans are being cheated out of watching football because of so much time waiting by a considerable amount, now, if you are paying a high price for a season ticket you have to wonder …is this value for money…Ladies nexcluded…they always give value for moneyThoughts for to day now you can tear me to pieces!!!!
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Ed..I read that Utd have pulled out of the aged Striker…I would like to think it was fan pressure rather than a hopeful sign of common sense by Utd management because I think Utd fans are more than disillusioned with the current regime. I can see the Glaziers selling after they had had a few more million from the coffers though, Where that will come from now, I do not know because China, Russia will be ruled out Doubtful if any further involvement from Middle East with all the uncertainties,,just leaves the USA, I would have said Japan but they have more common sense to invest in EPL wit anyone
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Common sense from the Utd board Brian? π Definitely not that! This was without question a matter of fan pressure and rightly so. The backlash from that signing would have been immense, considering some of the things he has been accused of in the past.
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