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999…re your post at 6.25pm.. so what is the point of VAR? There’s human error with and without VAR, so stop interrupting the flow and spontaneity of the game with this VAR shit
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Agree with that Chelseaman, still 4 goals scored away to Burnley is not to be sneezed at its a tough place to go too.
The Rodriguez goal was a brilliant one and unstoppable the second conceded was disappointing I think we turned off a bit towards the end possibly on the back of a tough away game to Ajax.
Overall though things are chugging along nicely. Cheers 9’s
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Hightown, I’m not the official defender of VAR mate.?
I agree things need to improve.
Offsides and handballs are being well picked up it’s the other areas that need to improve and I think even those responsible for VAR in the PL are acknowledging that.
Two key Refereeing decisions were overeturned by VAR today including a Chelsea penalty so that’s a step in the right direction.
Also I think we all have to remember that VAR is a worldwide issue not just a PL issue and I don’t think it’s going to go away.
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VAR was sold as a system to make sure the correct decision was given, but thatโs not happened, itโs not human error as such in my belief, itโs the fact that football is t suitable for it.
Tennis, one moving thing (the ball) and one stationary (the line) itโs in or out
Cricket, the vast majority of the action is within the wicket, the camera is also aided by ultra-edge and ball tracking, the only contentious decisions are whether catches are grounded.
Rugby, again most of the TMO is centred around the actual ball, whether it moves forward or itโs a try, the ball also moves slower than in football.
Football, goal line technology works well as itโs basically the same as tennis, itโs everything else thatโs the problem, thereโs so many things moving, the ball the players and because the ball is played in any direction very quickly the area that has to be covered in high detail is vast.
Iโm not sure what the solution is, but I preferred not having it to how it is now….Pagan
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The big plus is that Chelsea still have Rudiger, Christensen, Emerson, Kante and Loftus Cheek to come back too.
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In short Mr Pagan, I get where you’re coming from.
Cynical to me think from the ‘studio’ POV, Broadcasting Networks/Pundits et al were fearing “what they would talk about”.
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I think that spell at Derby Helped Lamps.
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Guys, i’m afraid to say this VAR debate seems to be heating and is likely to get out of hand. can we take a step back and do some reflection. afterall whatever views we have will not change anything. i thought the Chelsea boy was rightly booked for diving, and i was disappointed with him. and Frank said he would have a word with him. but let us not get personal. we can’t afford to lose the sensible posters here.
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Chelseaman, lots of good points very well made mate.
Personally whilst I get some of the concerns with VAR it seems to be over shadowing the games themselves.
Tonight there was a perfect hat trick from Pulisic, a fabulous save from Kepa and a worldie goal from Rodriguez and it’s getting hardly discussed because everytime the discussions seems to revolve around VAR.
That’s fine if that’s what people want to talk about but me I’m going to try and live in a VAR free zone and try and leave discussing VAR to others now because as you rightly say it’s not going to change anything and for better or worse we’re stuck with VAR now through all it’s teething problems.?
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“Journalists” and everything surrounding the Media make everything worse.
According to them 2 weeks ago, Manchester City were doomed.
Now Spurs inevitably will raise THEIR game at Liverpool to STOP Liverpool.
That is how the World Works.
As Your Were.
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Whilst i can see where you are coming from. Liverpool are top of the league on merit, and they are the best team of league at the minute. and some annoying stories will always be written from them. and every team team that faces them will raise their game. because you guys are unbeaten still, so my best advice to you is to sit back and enjoy the moment. the fact that you are getting annoying headlines suggests that you are at the top of the English football ladder.
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You will always get headlines like this who will always annoy you.
Arsenal hero Charlie Nicholas explains why Frank Lampard’s Chelsea will lose to Burnley
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C/Man, appreciate the good words, Thank You.
I’ve seen that post re Charlie Nicholas and here in lies the problem in employing ex-Footballers affiliated with a successful club of an ilk of the ‘Sky 4’ or ‘Big 6’.
There’s a regular incline of BIAS no matter what and in my world, that kills the whole point of trying to engage.
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If VAR is causing more controversy than it is soving then by definition it is not working. It’s just so frustrating! Sack the fucking thing…I’m with you Pagan.
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Thing is, if there are changes to how VAR is implemented, surely they will now have to wait until next season, or else weโll have had two different systems in the same season, and some teams who have had big decisions that have gone against them (which may not have done with a revised system) would rightly feel aggrieved. So I suspect weโre stuck with the current system until May.
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Just seen the Silva goal. Who said VAR gets the offside decisions right? If that’s given as a goal last season I have no problem. A simple but understandable refereeing error. But this season it’s a VAR error so what’s the point?
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HH, you ok mate?
The way I understand it is that VAR made their decision based on KDB scoring the goal, at which point Sterling was definitely onside and therefore ‘interfering’ with play does not come into it (as long as he doesn’t foul the keeper). The fact that Silva got a touch (and I’m not sure any camera angle conclusively confirms this) means that if/when he did, Sterling was offside and the goal should not have counted as he was obscuring the keepers sight. I don’t think VAR can be blamed in this instance – that doesn’t mean to say I’m 100% pro-VAR as there have been some very puzzling decisions made so far.
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HH I agree that VAR is creating more problems than it is solving, or at these the incredibly stupid implementation of it is. I wouldn’t get rid of VAR, I’d get rid of the people involved. We all have a different stance on the matter. For me, it is worth sacrificing SOME of the game time to key decisions. I don’t think the current handball rules are in line with the spirit of the game. I don’t think the pedantic offside nonsense is much better either. What really gets my goat though is VAR refusing to over-rule the ref. This “clear and obvious” stuff is a bad excuse to not put the officials ina tough spot. It is a rule designed to hinder the very point of VAR. This rule/interpretation must go. Until it does, VAR will continue to be a failure. So I say, correct these things and allow VAR to work for us.
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Why you saying VAR want overrule the ref when it’s happened several times already?
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I think Iโm going to follow 9s stance on this following this post. I probably am at the other end of the debate to 9 but as he says the actual footy is getting overshadowed by VAR, so until the end of season report, here goes.
We have to keep VAR as it is for the rest of the season to maintain consistency throughout it.
I think we need to get rid of the clear and obvious tag line and ask the question should the officials have seen the incident and acted on it in real time. That gets rid of the stupid offside decisions and there would be none of the debate around Man Ctiyโs goal as you could not expect to Silvaโs touch in real time.
The other comment I have is that the players donโt respect the VAR system as they still surround the ref and argue after the incidents have been reviewed. If the players donโt believe in it how do you expect the fans to….Pagan
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