Potter sacked

[nine nine nine]

Just because the plan changed doesn’t mean that wasn’t the plan Ed people get married their plan wasn’t to get divorced but sometimes they do.

None of us know what goes on behind closed doors. The big impact was the turning of the crowd which has been happening for a while.

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[Luckydestiny]

Rock bottom after 3 games is not worse than Potter this season. The point is despite set backs there has been a genuine progression that has been evident, they weren’t bottom for long mate.

I’m sorry mate but watched every chelsea game this season and there been zero positives or progression and clear regression. I can not honestly offer Potter any defence as to why he deserved more time, if I could I would.

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[Editor]

Nine, to continue on the marriage analogy, this is like the serial divorcee declaring “this is the one this time. I’m in ot for the long haul now. I’ll make this work” then proceeding to divorce his wife after a few arguments months later 😁

Lucky,you say all that but you wanted them to give him until the end of the season. Which one is it? They were right to get rid or they pulled the trigger too early? Again, I’m not saying they were wrong to pull the trigger. I’m saying it was foolish to think the whole spiel about this being different now and things changing was ever going to survive a single tough period.

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[Mikus LFC]

When Arteta came into Arsenal the club had been in the doldrums for a while so there was no immediate expectation. Potter couldn’t come into Chelsea after their recent winning history and spending of all that money and realistically expect to be given patience. It wasn’t going to happen. He’d also never worked at a big club before so what with all the players coming in it was going to prove a baptism of fire.

This is the point I made some time ago about patience after the club had been winning so much over the last few decades. It was simply unrealistic to imagine you could suddenly draw a line in the sand and now say you’re going to play the long patient game. There was still too much momentum from the Abramovich winning era. You also still have to show evidence relatively quickly as a manager that the players are at least buying into your philosophy. So even in the “patient” game you still have to show something.

Big mistake now looking back with Chelsea ditching Tuchel who had worked with big names and was liked by the fans. Potter deciding to take the job also now done him no favours.

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[Luckydestiny]

Ed, I would have given until end of season but at this point I have no faith or reason to believe he would have done enough in remaining games to turn confidence around. I am almost certain it was only going one way.

Like I said, if I could defend him I would. I am not defending boehly either, this is clearly down to his poor management of the first team management since he came in. They are not mutually exclusive, it’s not one or the other.

Anyway, in light of the very sad news I have little motivation to debate these trivial matters today so I will just accept your opinion and leave you with mine 👍

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[Nike19]

Lucky, I was trying to answer your other thread mate re Managers are overrated. I’m still trying to get my head around what it is you’re trying to convey. I’ll try and reply with my take. Some points may be overlapped on here and the match thread depending on replies.

The way I’m perceiving the release of Potter could well have been of a reluctance but a forced change. Players really looked all over the shop last Saturday and nobody really enjoying playing. I see a similarity with Pool.

I believe the uncharacteristic installment of the World Cup played it’s part and hampered clubs in trying to maintain their players in good shape as possible physically.

We’re effectively approaching the tail-end of the season, but the handful of games left can still shape where a club finishes. Everton changed their manager. Southampton did, Leeds did before that, Aston Villa, Wolves I think (somewhere in between) and most recently Palace. There’s a common denominator and a pattern that sparked a force change with matches lost in succession.

I don’t think Potter should have been appointed in the first place. I don’t know whether there was an expectation of something that could be significantly achieved in matter of months, and in fairness to Potter, support was given by allowing him to bring in players. But equally, he’s been part of Chelsea’s transition, so to an extent, I would have thought this period would be like a free pass and thereafter a full Reset. I didn’t see any stability as such and foothold from a consistency point of view. He looked out of his depth at times and maybe these are the reasons he was unfortunately shown the door.

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[Editor]

Totally agree on the last paragraph Lucky. Good debate, as ever, but I’ve little motivation to continue debating the point now.

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