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Mac… actually it would, but as I’ve said before on this thread we’re all hypocrites. And it’s not that Pepe works for the Arabs, outside of football his taking extra cash to promote the World Cup in Qatar, a country with terrible records on human rights, with one hand while “protesting” about freedoms in Catalonia with the other.
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Disagreeing with a policy is different to inhuman behavior.
Lets use your example here mak. If you was a high profile person and passionately was against zero hour contracts, yet was getting paid well by some company in the UAE. What would happen if you protested over zero-hour contracts here in the UK and what would happen if you protested over zero-hour contracts in the UAE?
It is more to it than just disagreeing with something. I honestly do not understand what Pep has gained from this too, people were aware in regards to his stance on Catalan long before he wore a ribbon and what was happening Catalan. So to use football as a reason to show how passionate he is about what is happening in Catalan has just had an adverse effect.
All this has done is made him look like a hypocrite and put the people who pay his wages in a bad light by exposing their inhuman behavior, there is nothing paying a massive PR team in order to keep it hidden could have done to stop that.
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The fuss the FA have made has raised the profile of the Catalonian cause far more than the wearing of the ribbon had done up until that point.
As for politics in sport, itβs a big no for me, as is religion in sport, sports about coming together to compete, not highlighting divisions….Pagan
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“actually it would, but as Iβve said before on this thread weβre all hypocrites. ”
No it wouldn’t make me/anyone a hypocrite. Working for someone is not a blanket endorsement of everything that they or their culture stand for. As for hypocrisy, you need directly comparable scenarios also. On one side you’re talking about poor living/working conditions in one country and on the other, it is a matter of national/cultural identity. The Catalan thing is a matter that is close to Pepe’s heart but I just don’t agree that him working for a UAE corporation will somehow cheapen his desire for his people to have their own, separate nationality, away from Spain.
I think it’s asking too much of Pepe or any other person to try and stand up for the rights of everyone in the world.
CM, I guess we can agree to disagree on most of this but in my opinion Pepe hasn’t shamed/embarrassed himself at all. really if you look at it, he wore a tiny ribbon , with no political slogans or anything offensive on it (etc etc)…
…. and it could all have been ignored.
He’s not created any storm for me, the over-reaction to it is what has caused the storm. I mean, the point of the FAs rule here to to basically avoid the scenario that they have caused, by intervening! They could have left it alone and barely a word would have been said about it.
“As for politics in sport, itβs a big no for me, as is religion in sport”
Sure and I’m with you in general but there has to be a threshold where we decide what is a persons nature/free right of expression etc. You will see players bless themselves before they come onto the pitch. Surely if we don’t allow it at all then that is a booking and a fine?Pepe didn’t lift up his jumper to display an inflammatory political slogan, which is the stuff we don’t need. he wore a tiny yellow ribbon. Big deal.
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Fair enough Mak.
IMO he was going to be asked why is he wearing a yellow ribbon and he response would bound get some form of reaction considering his current employees and his past links to Qatar.
This practically sums it up for me-
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Ribbons wristbands rainbow laces what else can we protest about or shout about which has very little impact on sport but rather detracts from it?
Pep can wear a thong and crop top for all I care. Some football fans may even like it, but it is inconsequential. It’s just another twitter driven fad and petulant from a manager who should know better given the difficulty in getting poppies onto shirts.
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442, agree with your last part.
This has caused an uproar from when Pep is ‘clocked on’. When you ‘clock out’ of ‘your shift’ and he’s wearing that ribbon whilst walking down the street, should that still be an issue?
I personally don’t think so. I’m not particularly sure too how Pep can be a hypocrite too about this.
Anyway, I don’t really want to get too involved on this thread and from past experience of other sites, I think it’s better to keep politics off a football message board even though there is a non-football forum.
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You are right NB people like FA suptremo. Martin glen do not help with stupid remarks how does he know what Spaniards think, some may well disagree but others will accept freedom of expression. Taken too far this subject will gat distorted to become irelavent. Just like mr glen
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City manager accepts charge for wearing yellow ribbon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43293771
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