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I’ve wondered the same about Goalkeepers’ age Mak. I’m not sure if it’s a general trend though. I just think De Gea is one of those keepers who, like Casillas, has been at the very top of the game since such a young age and is declining earlier than what is considered normal for that position. I think it’s just different for each keeper. Very few keepers stay at the very top for their whole careers. Buffon is probably the most recent example. Others seem to reach the top at a slightly older age but seem to carry on further at that level well into their 30s. Even Neuer has been very up and down for a couple of years.
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I think Man Utd’s decline and De Gea’s decline are probably linked. I do wonder sometimes if De Gea rues that failed move to Real on an almost daily basis.
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Mak, yeah, we might have missed a trick with Ancelotti. A proven winner, like Mourinho, but without all the hassle.
I really can’t see who we could get now. Those who might be good enough are at clubs they most likely wouldn’t leave even if their club would let them. Woodward wants a docile yes man, which OGS clearly is. The goal isn’t to mount a serious challenge to anything but the top 4. We have become Arsenal Vol 2.0, just without a style of play.
It’s a mess. Only Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Henderson and Fernandes should be considered not for sale. The rest should be up for sale if a decent offer comes along. United really looks like a club that should start from scratch.
The next manager should be appointed on that basis. Who can really build a team? Create a team spirit, implement a style of play, create a core of players with the right kind of character and professionalism. Nagelsmann is very young, but he did well at Hoffenheim before going to Leipzig and adding to his repetoire. The other name that springs to mind is Simeone. They are different types of managers, but they can clearly both build teams.
Getting in that kind of manager would be a more important appointment than a transfer of Sancho or Dembele. Why add a layer of paint to your car when you don’t have an engine?_____________________________
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On the keeper topic, De Gea has a crap defence in front of him. Even Schmeichel would have struggled with that bunch of village idiots.
It might be a mental thing. De Gea used to save us quite a bit. Maybe he’s become disillusioned by the fact that he was basically the only one pulling his weight for so long and the lack of a real project at the club. That players need to move on and then reinvent themselves have been seen before. We need to sell him for his own sake as well as for the greater good of the team. He has done well for many years for us, but it’s time for him to move on. Also because having two number ones is just a recipe for disaster._____________________________
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Arse close to signing Partey for 50m?
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sad…Istill think whoever you get next time as Manager will need to be given some assurances that OS has not been given, the problem is then your Boards motives or lack of to re build the foundations again.
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Brian-Just look @ Chelsea,sacking managers doesnt mean disaster.
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Traore in at United…. that will help the defence 😁
Yelled tho should! No more tubby!
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I see united have made 4 or 5 panic buys, Telles is ok nothing great, Cavani is a sweet striker and grandpa, can’t comment on the others cause I never heard of them but I suppose anyone is better than some of the current lot.
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Looks like a really poor window by Utd. In truth, I had no idea about any of Telles, Diallo (Traore), Pellistri. We’ve signed many players before though who I’ve not known about and they go one of two ways. So, on a scale of Dan James to Ronaldo, I’m hazarding a guess they’re all closer to the Welshman.
I’m all for Utd trying to sign the Sanchos of the world before they become stars. That’s what our success under Ferguson was built on. There’s every chance the likes of Diallo/Pellistri are exactly that. The problem is that our scouting record over recent years doesn’t suggest we’re capable of discovering those kind of gems so I won’t hold my breath.
With all that said, I’m actually very excited for Utd over the next 2-3 years. Away from the glamour of the Sancho-type signings, Utd have been making some very promising signings at youth level. We signed a very highly rated young striker from City who has been breaking records at youth level, a highly rated French CB who captains the France U17 side and as well as some other very highly rated prospects from around Europe.
Ole won’t be here this time next month anyway so just hoping we bring in the right manager to bring these players through.
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Cavani is a good signing but at 34 obviously for the short term, his far better striker than anything United have now but he also needs service.
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Maverick…I do have a little sympathy for OS, after all, you have 11 players on the pitch, highly paid thatshould have shown to grit. In saying that never thought OS would be the right choice for Utd but they have to live with it for now
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Ed your right I was wrong mate 😂
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Fulham look to have made some good signings which will gives them some hope of turning things around.
Partey is a very good signing for Arsenal who are begining to get things together at the Emirates under Arteta.
I’ve always liked the look of Telles every time I watched him he’s very good offensively and Cavani is a great goalscorer who still mileage in his legs.
Clearly neither were in United’s original transfer plans but that doesn’t mean they won’t work out whether both are players in areas that were priorities for United to strengthen is open to conjecture.
Very good transfer windows for both Spurs and Everton both of whom look dangerous and Spurs will look even more dangerous with Bale in the team.
I think we’re in for a very interesting PL season. It’s tough currently to even predict the top 4 and the PL title race promises to be a lot closer than last season with perhaps more teams involved too.
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Sid, the thing about Ancelotti is he’s much closer to what Utd should be, philosophically. He’d get Old Trafford rocking again but of course you couldn’t have Woodward rolling the dice or playing Football Manager, or whatever he does to select the players to sign. There’s no strategy to his purchasing, no underlying idea at all. I’d love to know how he’s deciding on these players because it isn’t that Cavani is a bad player, it’s more that utd didn’t really need him. Well, correct me if you think Im wrong there, I very well could be and Cavani is a really bad example, compared to at least 80% of Utds signings over the past few seasons. Lindelof staying is in my opinion like a bad signing each summer. Maguire looks like a poor player since he joined Utd.
Ole is a yesman alright but he won’t last. Who will Utd go for? I don’t think they should go after some defensive coach, even if it’s someone of Simeone’s quality. I was going to say why not go for Pochettino, then I googled to see if he was at a club yet, only to see fresh rumours of him replacing Ole.
I know people have their doubts about him and they may well have some good points but jesus he’s several leagues above Ole and plays a style that suits the club. Just fire ole , get Poch in and get a bloody qualified sporting director. No ferdinand, no ex Utd players, someone who is already established as knowing what they are bloody doing. Not sure why Im always getting frustrated about what’s going on at Utd, we’re meant to be bitter rivals.
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Only thing about Ancelotti he is not too fond of playing youngsters, but I don’t why Chelsea always sack their successful managers, you can’t win every season.
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I read today that the move for Sancho fell down due to Joel Glazer refusing to let Woodward increase the offer for Sancho despite Ed Woodward’s appeals to him and the rest of the board to do so???
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Sancho would only be wasted at utd anyway. I mean, do they really need to replace Greenwood? He’s not a problem player, he seems to do alright but I don’t really watch Utd if I don’t have to.
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Mak, Greenwood is very much a player Utd want to build upon. The things is that the club see him moving towards his preferred and more natural position of a central striker, which leaves us short on the right.
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It’s probably been said previously, but in my humble opinion United badly need a DMF to protect the back four it was easy for Spurs are there are far better teams than us in the league. I find it strange that it was only Spurs who wanted Højbjerg and why did Arsenal get a free run at Thomas Partey . Both of these players would have given the defence the protection they need.
Obviously the lads/ed on here watch more Utd games than me but with the Sancho money you would have massively improved the back 4 which is letting Utd down.
I sort of get why Cavani was brought in, but with Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Fernandes, Pogba ( who needs a couple of lines of Whizz before kick off) you have a fantastic attack, it’s that iffy defence that will hold the team back, the money was there but a trick was missed, as I said this is only my opinion and not an attack on Utd._____________________________
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