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………………meanwhile Spurs are scouring the world for freebies . Like Messi,lol
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Mikus…I do not think City are in decline, with or without Messi. Nice to have him but I will not loose any sleep if we do not sign him but I do expect us to be in the market again at the right time
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Well they’re in a kind of transition Brian. There are a few players coming to the end now and they are still struggling in the CL. I think they would welcome a lift and Messi certainly fits that bill. As I’ve said though, I think there would be positives and negatives over signing him even if commercially it’s a no brainer. Would I sign Messi if I was the City owner? If the manager genuinely feels he can fit him in the side with no sacrifices to the other players or dynamic of the dressing room then probably so. But you do tend to need to build a team around Messi. But I just think commercially it will be too good for the owners to turn down.
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Steveo, with Jose at Spurs yes, we don’t have that playmaker that all teams need . The problem with him ( or his agent) being he was so feckin sure RM or Barca were in for him that he stopped trying & to me he was the main man in Poch’s downfall, Jose wouldn’t stand for that. I guess if the rumours are true we have the money for one big signing if I was in charge I’d throw the kitchen sink at Dybala though we might have missed our only chance last season, if not Grealish now United have DVDB.
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Just seen that Mario Gotze is a free agent only 28 y/o a bit injury prone but must be worth a punt for Spurs.
If City or any team in the PL get Messi I for one will be more than happy to watch every game he plays._____________________________
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Mikus…some good points but we should be progressing through transition not declining. Walker, Gundogan Mahrez Otemeni, Fernandinho are the elders, maybe we should add KDB but he has still to reach his prime. The thought of a long KDB ball to Messi would have me jumping up and down. I do not get that with Sterling, Mahrez. Augerro, yes and he will be going at the end of this season anyhow, so, not as bad as I thought. We have the new lads coming in and I feel they will do well, I do not why I think this, maybe , just optimism. I would also like to see a serious challenger to Edison. Pity about Garcia but I believe he is seeing his contract out this season unless he becomes part of the Messi deal. Foden,Doyle and Harwood-?? will be challenging, maybe others. No, I do not see any reason to support the declining point
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Shiney, he is linked with West Ham and Monaco chum.
Saurez to Juve .
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I think people write city off at their peril even without messi
It’s only 15 months ago that they had won 18 games in a row to win the league. They lost far to many games last season and I think last season was a blip compared to the previous two were they accumulated 198 points.
The injury to Laporte was huge. He was rushed bsck in my opinion aswell. Ederson has his worst season since he cane and is a very good keeper
Players and teams are written off far to quickly after a few bad months
City will spend more and are my favourites for the league
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Any Club in the world could fit Messi into their side and he would improve it over the next couple of years.
The football benefits in signing Messi far outweigh the commercial benefits imo.
Also I totally agree with Sean and his statement of “people write city off at their peril even without Messi.” Jürgen Klopp won’t be foolish enough to do that for sure.
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Ah Messi would be absolutely huge for city nine mate.
I’d love to see him in the pl. the figures are going to be outrageous to get him.
So how will city comply with fffp if they have to pay a big fee for him? That and so many questions will be answered if he signs
I’d love to see him in the pl. what a player
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Sean, the fee is definitely a problem City will have to overcome because of FFP, wages may not be as big a problem because I think Messi will be prepared to move to City for a lot less than he’s earning at Barca and the commercial returns for City would help overcome that.
City will probably have to throw a big player into the mix to make the fee manageable imo.
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Ye going to be very interesting to see how this all unfolds nine mate
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I think people write city off at their peril even without messi
Completely agree Sean. I had them down to win the league prior to the Messi stories. They’re also favourites with the bookies. Nobody at all would be surprised if they win the league. They have the strongest squad by far, before Messi is even mentioned.
With that said, I don’t think they were any better when Laporte came back in last season. Ederson, like De Gea, had some very dodgy moments but is still a very good keeper. I think Ake will give them some more cover though at the back and allow them to switch to a back 3 when needed.
The football benefits in signing Messi far outweigh the commercial benefits imo.
I’m not sure I agree with that Nine. He’s still an incredible player but, in my opinion, Messi going to City is bigger for them off the pitch than on it. That’s not to say he won’t improve them but he’s never come close to any success with Argentina and hasn’t won the CL for a few years now with Barca.
So how will city comply with fffp if they have to pay a big fee for him?
I have a feeling there will be some very smart accounting going on to make it work. I assume they’ll be able to pay him a reasonable salary to fall within FFP but he will earn tons of money through endorsements and sponsors. Already rumours of a so-called Messi tax being applied to sponsorship deals where they will have to pay a premium to use Messi’s image. Those premiums increase the revenue and in turn pay Messi’s wages I’d imagine.
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It is Sean and I still wouldn’t completely write off just yet Barca and the Messi Camp trying to solve their differences with Bartomeu stepping down as President even if currently that looks unlikely especially if Barca put a massive price tag on Messi’s head that would make it very tough for interested Clubs to meet.
Messi will leave a massive unfillable hole at Barca but at 33 he was going to leave at some stage even if this is a couple of years too early from a Barca perspective.
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Ed, all good points but I don’t think you can put Barca not winning the CL or Argentina not winning the World Cup all at Messi’s door.
Barca have been badly managed at Board level for a while and City are currently a better run Club and have a stronger team and that’s what appeals to Messi particularly with the Barca connections there.
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Absolutely, Nine. I’m merely making the point that Messi, and arguably a younger and better version of himself, has been in some very good sides over the last few years at Barca and throughout his career with Argentina yet was unable to lead them to the top titles.
Of course, City are better equipped than both Argentina and recent Barca sides were, but there’s an argument that Messi functions best when the whole side is catered to his strengths. That’s a big commitment to make for a 33yr old with his best days behind him.
Regardless of all that, there’s no denying he’s an incredible player who it would be a privilege to see in the PL.
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In fact, a perfect example of my point re Messi not necessarily being the catalyst to transform a very good side into an unstoppable one is perfectly mirrored in the case of Ronaldo going to Juventus at the same age. Juventus were on the verge of something very special and just couldn’t make that final step up in the CL. Have they actually improved at all since Ronaldo came in? Are they any closer to the CL since he came in? I’d argue they’ve gone backwards despite Ronaldo himself maintaining a very impressive goal tally in his time there.
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Messi is not the player he once was. He still is unbelievable with the ball but when his team doesn’t have it he just walks about with his hands on his hips, they may as well assume they have 10 players he does that little. Man City, or any other team, would need to set up to accommodate this. With Pep’s high pressing of the passing lanes I cannot see Messi fitting into his system when City are under pressure. City lost 9 times last season, and it wasn’t all down to bad luck or individual errors as some seem to think, they were outplayed, outfought, and outthought. Messi will help them add a few more goals when they are tonking relegation fodder but he won’t help turn those defeats into draws or wins. I could actually see it as a negative move for City.
I think we have a few Messi fans on here but are you looking at Messi from 4 years ago? I know he is a legend but even legends fade with time.
This would be a vanity transfer for Abu Dhabi nothing more, and a extremely expensive one at that.
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City are an extremely well run football Club and I suspect that trying to sign Messi is primarily based on what Messi will bring to the team from a football sense above everything else.
Of course Messi at 33 is in the twilight of his career and is unlikely to be able to give City more than a couple of seasons at the highest level.
I think Messi will contribute against all teams in the PL and the CL not just against the lesser teams he’s still a very good player and if he helps win City the CL and helps them reclaim the PL title it will be money very well spent.
As with all transfers only time will tell and currently he’s still a Barca player and could indeed remain so.
It’s all about opinions and as always the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. But Barca have to release him first.
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Would people rate maradona over Messi?
Maradona did unbelievable things at Napoli and literally won the World Cup on his own in 86.
The Italian league back they was a dirty fierce league abd he was booted around the place.
What a player.
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