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[Luckydestiny]

Mak, cobain died in April 94 and definitely maybe released in August 😊 noel made it up

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[Chucky McChuckface]

We shouldn’t let facts get in the way of a good rumor!! 🙂

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[sean the sailor]

Stone roses best band ever

Noel wrote live forever because he heard cobiains sings about death etc

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[Luckydestiny]

Yeah Sean I heard noel say that too, live forever my fave oasis song for sure

I liked Stone Roses too but just like with the la’s we didn’t get enough of them

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[Rover]

Stone Roses or Oasis don’t feature in any top 50 ever rock bands polls.

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[Chucky McChuckface]

And so they shouldn’t… at best both were “pop with an attitude problem”!!

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[sean the sailor]

It was Brit pop rover me aul chum so that’s why I’d say

Beautiful musics. Stone roses 1st album is a masterpiece

Queen were some band. Freddie Mercury’s voice was absolutely amazing

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[Luckydestiny]

Rover, why does that matter? You are a but rock fan yeah? As in “nothing but rock”? no point shitting on music because it doesn’t fit your personal idea of what rock is.

Honestly it’s subjective, imo guns and Roses are one the most over rated, empty and manufactured bands to ever have existed yet you mention them in same sentence as nirvana? You want your opinion taken seriously or what? 🙂

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[sean the sailor]

I don’t get nirvana at all. How many albums did they have? Depressing music but I absolutely loved their cover of Bowie’s the man who saved the world.

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[sean the sailor]

As primo all scream say in come together

Music is music

It’s all about opinions and tastes as lucky says

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[Chucky McChuckface]

“Appetite for Destruction” was a pretty decent album for sure… although the rest of their catalogue leaves a lot to be desired…

And the same with Nirvana, take out “Nevermind” from the equation, and their isn’t a lot left to put the fizz in your beans.

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[Rover]

I have 1000s of original music from way before I was even born, just on my cells I have about 5000 numbers downloaded nearly everyone original, look I am not really a big fan of my time rock groups such as Nirvana or Gun and Rose’s etc. but the earlier ones such as Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Led Zeppelin, Foreigner, Black Sabbath and even earlier ones like The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Cream, Kinks, Hollies were all way above in a class of their own. This can be confirmed by categories such as best guitarists, best bass, best drummer, best keyboard, even best flutist old Ian Anderson. Or just check greatest rock bands ever, there’s quite a few polls.

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[Luckydestiny]

That’s exactly it Sean, and while I truly dislike GNR I only went out if my way to say it to demonstrate how pointless it is to try and categorise like this. It’s not about what marketing term the music best fits ie rock, metal, grunge etc that’s all artifical billocks, it’s about whether the music can move you on an emotional level imo. GNR no doubt genuinely moved millions of people and so while I can still only like them for a few slash solos I can’t deny they are a great band with a straight face.

Same goes for oasis though, I grew out of them very quickly and can only enjoy a handful of their tracks now, but their impact was great and that can’t be denied by me or anyone else, doesn’t matter what the polls say 😀

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[Rover]

Yes every group has left a distinctive mark many were great 1 hit wonders as well, but those early rock groups were unique and I say that even though some of them were around before I was even born. If you only listen to the riffs of Page, Clapton, Hendrix, Gilmour, Box, Beck, May, Blackmore etc, as one example. They were and still are the ultimate masters.

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[Luckydestiny]

Rover I think it is folly to try to measure artists and art against arbitrary and illusionary objective scales.

I know we can all as individuals place music in a hierarchy based on our own subjective taste but the aggregate of the individual subjective does not equal objectivity.

Its no wonder the majority of readers of classic rock magazine vote the classic Rock bands as the best musicians or song writers, it means nothing ultimately mate.

Love all the artists you mentioned btw

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[Pagan]

There are only 3 categories of music

Music you like

Music you dislike

Music you haven’t heard

…………..Pagan

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[Pagan]

Stone Roses, Loves spreads, the intro to that could have been written by Jimmy Page.

Guns and Roses, saw them at a half full Rock City in 87, supported by Faster Pussy Cat, both absolutely brilliant though, Mr Rose decided “encores suck” as someone threw an empty plastic glass onto the stage.

Nirvana, saw them at Trent Polytechnic in 90, was taken by a friend in the music business who said they were going to be made into the next big thing (so not really manufactured then) they were awful live, one of three bands I would have asked for my money back (if I’d paid)

…………Pagan

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[Luckydestiny]

Pagan, you mean hendrix for love spreads I think mate, its basically the voodoo child riff

Never saw nirvana live but every bit of live footage I saw was poor, with exception of the mtv unplugged session which for me was superb.

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[Luckydestiny]

Duplicate

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[Luckydestiny]

Just listened to it again pagan and actually the intro dies sounds like led zep then it goes into hendrix riff

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