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  • #18403
    Anonymous

      Ultimately of course Salah won’t be considered on the same level but my point is that you don’t need to go down as a legend to be compared to him. What he’s been doing since he’s 18-19 has no bearing on his current season. The only thing it helps him with is that his name is expected to be on that list of nominees.

      I only made this point because of all the remarks about how it’s pathetic and laughable that people would dare compare someone to the almighty. Like anyone who utters the words is some kind of upstart for making what is actually mostly a comparison of styles or qualities both physical and in flair and not that of overall legacy.

      This season isn’t over yet, he could get injured or have a loss of form but as things stand, Salah is potentially on his way to breaking the PL record for goals scored. If people don’t like the idea of comparing apples to apples (current ability to current ability) then I guess I’m warning you that life is possibly about to get uncomfortable for you in the near future, because every single media outlet will be gushing if we’re lucky enough to see Shearers record broken.

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      #18404
      srd79
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        Mak, most who are considered legends of the game did start out from a very early age performing. Messi did. Pele did. Maradona did. Van Basten did. Cruyff did. The list goes on.

        Salah could turn out to be a club legend. Perhaps he’ll perform like this the next 5-6 or 7 years. Then he’ll likely end up at some point with either Real or Barcelona, win the CL a few times and then be considered an all out legend of the game.

        This season he’s performing extremely well. But to make comparisons to Messi is just hype. It’s not about anyone being pathetic or laughable or anything like that. It’s just about keeping perspective. Whenever someone starts performing, comparisons are always made to greats of the game. Usually the comparisons are just made too early.

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        #18407
        Anonymous

          Again though, I am not comparing legacy. I’m not even making the comparison but started out in this thread by commenting that the comparison is everywhere. Is it hype? In my opinion that is a yes and no answer. yes because no matter how you make a comparison, when mentioning Messi his legacy comes attached, to some extent but I will also say no because you can compare styles and you can compare goals to goals.

          It wouldn’t matter how good or bad Salah was doing, if you took his 5 best goals and they were the only ones he scored this season, you wouldn’t be a moron for saying “that goal is like something Messi would score!”, because looks at them, they are not just of that quality, they are of a similar mold. I’m not just talking about a scale of bad to good. I mean did Gerrard ever score a single goal that you could apply the above statement to and not look silly?

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          #18409
          nine nine nine
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            Mak, Messi has been scoring circa 40 goals a season for 14 seasons and is much much more than a goal scorer and if nothing else this thread is more than a tad premature and is often a Liverpool fan trait amongst some but not all Liverpool fans expectations are almost always greater than reality.

            Salah is having a great season but comparisons to the best player in the world who has done it season after season regularly driving his club to Doubles, trebles and multiple Champions Leagues is more than a tad premature.

            Let’s wait and see what Salah is doing in 4/5 years time. Torres had one great season and then went backwards.

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            #18413
            nine nine nine
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              …..not saying Salah will go backwards mind injuries did for Torres.

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              #18419
              Anonymous

                It’s almost like I said nothing at all..

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                #18420
                Anonymous

                  mak – i agree with what you’re saying in a sense. some of the stuff salah has done this season is comparable to what messi can do. i havent seen the watford goals, but his goal against spurs was just brilliant and only a few players in the world can do that sort of thing. when i watch kane i am amazed at the range of goals he scores, but at the same time nothing he does is different to what many other players do, but he just lots of things briliantly. some of the goals salah scores you would only really link to messi.

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                  #18423
                  Anonymous

                    Ya and I mean , loads of his goals are bang average but his goals against Leicester, Portsmouth, Porto, Spurs and a few others are just goals that no other Liverpool player could hope to score. I say Liverpool cause I know them best but you could apply that to many teams.

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                    #18424
                    srd79
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                      I agree that you can compare in the sense that Salah (and many others for that matter) can provide moments of absolute magic that compares to the best of the best.
                      But it’s being able to do it on a very regular basis and season after season that defines worldclass IMO. From time to time you see even in the Danish Superliga (which I follow) flashes of sheer brilliance. Not even remotely as often as when Salah does it which in turn isn’t yet as often as Messi does it. Except of course for this season.

                      And I get the feeling that I’m very much adding to the whole going- around- in- circles- thing that I think we’re having going on right now! πŸ˜€

                      I get your point, Mak! πŸ™‚

                      I think that Salah guy is very good at football and as he has been playing this season he would walk into any team in the world. By far the bargain of the season!

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                      #18425
                      nine nine nine
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                        Agree with Srd Salah on current form would get into any team in the world and that some of his goals this season have been outstanding.

                        Def a candidate for player of the year and I suspect he will get nominated for the Balon D’Or too and if Salah retains his current form or indeed improves still further you wouldn’t say he won’t win it one day.

                        Still only one Lionel Messi though!?

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                        #18433
                        Hightown hope
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                          As gas as I can see the only comparisons Mak is making between Salah and Messi is one of playing style ie types of goals, dribbling skill etc, and one of current form. In both those comparisons, the exercise is a fair and valid one. No one is trying to say Salah is a better overall player than Messi, and he almost certainly never will be, but on current form, playing in the Premiership, I know who I would rather have in my team…and he’s not Argentinian.

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                          #18439
                          sean the sailor
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                            Crazy debate guys

                            No comparison with Messi

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                            #18440
                            whoisbeni
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                              Oh come on Sean – Messi is pretty good!

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                              #18441
                              nine nine nine
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                                Beni, brilliant! ?

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                                #18445
                                Anonymous

                                  Ha Srd πŸ˜›

                                  “But it’s being able to do it on a very regular basis and season after season that defines worldclass IMO.”

                                  See this is something that I mostly agree with. It’s hard not to have to apply it to Salah and will be harder again if he manages to break or match the current PL goals in a season record. There have been one season wonders before. I really don’t see this being the case for Salah barring injury problems but if Liverpool can even keep him after his debut season, he will need to back it up with another really good one after that.

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