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    cm
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      Sean-

      LVG was a funny one. Against the top 6 sides in the league, he had a brilliant record. Beat Arsenal twice, lost once and drew 1, beat City twice and drawing 1, lost 1, beat liverpool 4 times, lost to chelsea twice and drew against them twice, beat spurs twice, lost once and 1 draw. It was against the lesser teams that he struggled against. The football was bland and boring, yet in small patches was entertaining.

      Jose is a funny one too. The style is inconsistent. One game, you have watched the best game since the Fergie days, the following it is boring and the only thing predictable is park the bus against top sides. United started off well this and then momentum was lost when Jose decided to park the bus against Liverpool, the loss of Pogba did not help also. But the cautious approach did not help too. Like Pagan says, it is Jode style, you do not know what to expect.

      In regards to Pogba, you hit the nail on the head. But Gerrard was a level or 2 above him at the same age. Gerrard grip games by the scruff of the neck when required, Pogba has rarely done that since arriving to United. At 23/24(2005) Gerrard played a part in helping Liverpool win the CL, Pogba helped his side win the EL, but his performances in comparison to Gerrard are no where near good enough. I agree he has the ingredients to be world class, he is a long way off. I have grown to like him and see what others do.

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      #9845
      cm
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        The chelsea fans onviously know Jose better than any of us because he managed their club for a combined total of 5 and hald years, winning 3 league titles. But I have to agree with the posters who are saying he may not be at United next season. His body lanvuage just signals that he does not want to be there. I remember on teamtalk some Chelsea fans were saying he looked a broken man when he arrived back at the club even after winning the title and I have to agree when observing his behaviour at United. At Madrid he lost the dressing room for the first time in his managerial career and that seems to have got to him, bringing his mood swings back to England. 1st tenure at Chelsea and at Inter, I have always known him to defend his players to the hilt. Yesterday he laballed some of his players childish with their approach towards the end, although true, the Jose who was at Chelsea first time round would not have openly ridiculed his players in public from what I remember.

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        #9855
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          Cm, no Jose was fine for the first 2 seasons back at the Bridge albeit still a bit controversial but he blew up in Season 3.

          I wouldn’t totally dismiss the same happening at United eventually especially if he doesn’t win the PL but I think he will almost certainly go again next season after some substantial spending in the Summer window.

          Don’t forget fellas he had the same problem in Spain coming up against Pep and Barca at their best but he still found a way to win La Liga.

          Goat, I’m not saying Mourinho will stay until he wins a PL title if it doesn’t happen next season which will be no easy task he could go then but I’m pretty sure he will go again next season after an even bigger spend next Summer.

          Also don’t forget even though Barca were his club Pep only went 4 seasons at Barca and 3 seasons at Bayern there’s no guarantees with anyone. Cheers All 999

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