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“Liverpool FC.. Words of the manager whipping it up even though I am sure this was not his intention. He has history though of inflammatory rhetoric here and in Germany.”
Do I have to pull up the entire statement that Klopp made because this is nonsense man. Klopp asked for the fans to show their passion but in a legal way. So, you’re asking for people to look at it objectively, while showing that you’re consumed by your own bias.
“Why Liverpool supporters felt the need for violence. This needs to be examined”
More inflammatory shit I see. This is following the same line previously where you wanted to link Hillsborough and the cities past struggles into some kind of general motivation towards violence. I thought you had cooled down but your bitterness is still burning strong.
I have to say that I’m really disappointed because you lads seemed to take the loss well. If you ask me, I’d have said that you guys had something to be pissed off about with our offside goal. I would be ok with that and had it been the other way ’round, I’d have been annoyed about it. This BS though is just scandalous. It’s almost like we beat you, so you are getting your own back on here, trying to rile people up while making sure to not break the rules of the forum.
WhoisBeni, wait for it to blow over but don’t leave man. We’ll sort this shit out and things will settle down again hopefully.
“If City were so traumatised by the scenes outside, how come Liverpool barely got a touch of the ball for the first 10 minutes?”
What a brilliant point. I would like to hear the City lads address that question too. An excellent post also.
“IMO LFC tacitly condone this behaviour by encouraging this reception.” From a very good post, I have to say that I disagree with your conclusion. the LFC brand has absolutely nothing to gain from this kind of negative press. It will in fact likely cost the club millions in indirect revenue losses. With FSG, image is everything. The LFC “brand” is how they will ultimately make so much money from this club and fan trouble will be one of the things brought up during all negotiations for sponsorship deals. it will be a tool to bring our demands down and an effective one if we don’t root this problem out fast.
It’s true that UEFA may only give us a light fine but that’s going to create clicks like any other story, when they do come up with a decision. Who knows though, they might make us play behind closed doors for a game or 2. That’s a serious problem.
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Mak,I think it’s a little unfair to quote me and possibly take what I said out of context as my next sentences were linked to the one you quoted. I do think its irresponsible for clubs to tacitly (my words) encourage these type of protests which will inevitably attract a knob head element. Especially when it has occurred before. I would be dissapointed if City or Pep requested friendly pre match protests for LFCs coach on Tuesday. I am sure you agree it wouldn t be helpful at all. There may well be retailtory trouble on Tuesday but a call to arms by the club of Pep would just inflame things further. I also think GMP wouldnt be very happy. Cheers Jim
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I think everyone should let this go now everyone has had their say and linking what happened to Hillsborough was a bridge far to far imo.
It’s all in the hands of UEFA now and it’s up to them to decide the appropriate punishment and nothing any of us say on here will make an iota of difference to what UEFA decide to do.
As Jim said yesterday for the sake of the site and particularly the Editor who has built such a great site from scratch this should all be put to bed now and nobody should be leaving the site over it. Cheers All 999
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Iβll leave this here.
We all have them.
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Big Jim, I wasn’t purposefully trying to misrepresent what you said, I quoted a number of comments as I went down to answer them all as quickly as I could. I do agree that it wouldn’t help if Man city called for any fan response but I wouldn’t view what Klopp called for in the same light, as we’re looking at a situation that got out of hand and a reaction to that incident.
I will say that i am still for the fans meeting the team bus but only if people can be civilised. given how it’s gotten out of hand though, it is definitely something best avoided entirely. I mean, in the scenario where Liverpool go through to the semi’s, I would be genuinely nervous about the home leg. UEFA are already looking at us and a repeat of some really scummy behavior may see the heavy hand come down on us. Never mind the further tarnishing of Liverpools name.
Beni, that’s fantastic man! haha What was the result in the replay of this match I wonder?
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Very simple fella’s, noise, songs, flares, whatever, but the second something/somebody touches the bus, that’s a bridge too far…
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Bang on Chucky.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if UEFA implement a ruling on home fans waiting to meet away teams Coaches in future UEFA fixtures.
The example of City fans doing similar is worrying in respect of next Tuesday although you would hope the Police will be more pro active given what’s just happened.
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I can’t believe there’s still ongoing posts on the subject of the attack on the Bus.
Chucky is spot on and that’s all there is to it.
I can’t see any revenge attack as mentioned in my morning reply. I think it’s a handful of idiots essentially that have let the rest of the supporters and the club down.
Regarding the gents on here, no ill feeling for me on Man City. Albeit that we didn’t really push for the domestic cups, I’m generally happy with the progress Liverpool have made in both the League and this competition.
There’s still a chance we could be eliminated, Tuesday night, so as long as it’s blood sweat and tears with the application, they’d be no complaints.
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Perhaps the last word on this should be left to JΓΌrgen Klopp.
‘I feel really embarrassed, ashamed,’ said Klopp. ‘It is like “What?” I cannot understand how you give this opportunity to the people, to create something wonderful like this usually is. It was already on the edge, with the flares, which are illegal, but it was nice and special.
‘But the people do not understand the rules. If I was to make the decision, I would say it (welcoming) is not allowed anymore. It is not possible. You had the chance, you didn’t use it. Sorry. It was a historical moment because I was part of the last time it happened.
‘I don’t have the words (to describe my feelings). It is idiots in this situation. How can you do that? It is not a little bit funny. It is dangerous; it feels bad.’
This is a subject of which he has experience. When Klopp managed Borussia Dortmund, hooligans from Cologne threw a rock through the window of their bus, as he explained: ‘You think: “If that hits my head, what happens?” It is not funny. It is the complete opposite. I’m really angry.’
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