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  • #37991
    Nike19
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      New Kit Launch folks ๐Ÿ˜€ This one is simply delicious and takes me back to the 80s, haha ๐Ÿ™‚

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      #38364
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        Did anybody else know our fixture with Newcastle has been switched from Sunday afternoon to Saturday Night, 19:45?

        Can’t believe it! That’s straight away we meet Barca away on a Wednesday. The flying back, rest, retraining and prep leaves us a bit stretched.

        I spose, the upside is that we get a bit of extra time for our return leg at Anfield on a Tuesday…..

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        #41106
        Nike19
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          REFLECTION ON THE DOMESTIC SEASON

          Sean, Mak, Oz, 3ps, HH, and all LFC Faithful, this was out a day or so ago. Just A Wonderful Journey Above All.

          Most Nervy Battle:

          Newcastle Away:

          Most Enjoyable as far as Live TV Matches:

          Southampton Away

          Cardiff Away

          Huddersfield Home

          The Friday Games Were Truly The Best – Cherish.

          Fun Moments:

          Klopp Punched Fists Lol ๐Ÿ˜€ After Huddersfield

          Poignant Moment:

          Klopp Running Over To Allison. I felt then this was something Real For Us in terms of Finally Nailing Down Our 19th.

          ‘Reveal – The Out In The Open’:

          I genuinely made an Aspiration for The League Championship after winning Away at Spurs at the time of my Birthday – obviously kept that to myself.

          Above All:

          I felt with conviction for the first time for a very long time, we gave it our all. 97 Points: 30-7-Lost Only 1. That will never be matched as Runners Up, and an Incredible shame we didn’t finally end our 29 year wait.

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          #41108
          Anonymous

            Aye, we had a great season that honestly had enough moments to make it worthy of a title win. We had all elements right, including the winning ugly or pinch of luck in some matches. We also had the luck against us in terms of whether the ball was or wasn’t over the line. The calls were correct in every case but it was such a narrow margin each time… So the luck wasn’t only in our favour. Not that I’m asking for it to be or anything.

            On the other page, they wanted to talk about where we lost the title. I’ve no intention of humouring such nonsense. You don’t “lose” anything, if you’re talking about one loss all season. Unless that is of course what you’re talking about. The title was won by someone else.

            In 2014 there was a sense that we didn’t belong alright. In last seasons CL, maybe the same feeling but this time around, we know we belong where we are. You could see that in our we closed so many games out. If we needed a goal, the sense that we would get it was strong.

            I honestly won’t mind about missing out of the PL, if we can win the CL. You want to talk about moving forward, we’ve got to show that we are.

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            #41111
            sean the sailor
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              Iโ€™m fairly relaxed lads.ive stayed away from all cl chatter so far. Two weeks to go and build up will start soon

              Iโ€™m not even thinking about losing. We simply canโ€™t lose this final or itโ€™s another huge kick in the balls for everyone associated with the club. Itโ€™s actually not worth thing about as it will be so so negative

              As nine has said spurs can beat anyone on their day but we turn up and play like we can then we will win.

              The pain from last year has to spur the players on. Such a touch game but Iโ€™m only thinking positive and a win for us

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              #41136
              Anonymous

                That’s it Sean. I don’t want to think about how things will be if we lose. This is the biggest game of Klopp’s reign, made more so given how the LC, Europa and last seaosns CL final went. We’ve simply got to win it and nothing else will do.

                The lads have got to take the experience of this title run and also of last seasons CL run and final loss and use it. I feel they’ve been maturing, as we’ve come through all the assortments of challenges in this PL campaign. We are the real deal, we’ve just got to have one more brilliant game. Rather than hope, we’ve got to expect it. It’s time.

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                #41162
                Nike19
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                  Great Read Gents.

                  Got one more game to go as far as this season goes, but just wanted to take this opportunity to say I’ve enjoyed the company of you LFC Faithful on here.

                  All we need to nail down is the European Cup, and man, the Floodgates are going to open for a *FUTURE*

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                  #41170
                  Anonymous

                    You know, I thought the Europa League final was VITAL to our project under Klopp. Missing out meant no CL, so of course you think you’re gonna go backwards. It wasn’t the case.

                    I thought similar last season because it felt like an opportunity that might not come around again. I was wrong again.

                    The losing of finals is really the only problem. Left here but we’ve shown amazing character in this season. As we’ve all talked about, we’ve shown that we belong here.

                    Obviously we want to keep moving forward and to get something out of it all.

                    That’s really it though. I think I’m gone a order one of those classic replica jerseys just for the final.

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                    #41281
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                      Apparently Harry Wilson hasn’t done enough to get into Klopp’s plans. We’ve put a price tag of ยฃ25m on him. Am I the only one who thinks this is low? This guy must be missing key parts of his game because he’s definitely got a kinda X-Factor about him.

                      I guess time will tell whether it’s good or bad business but in the short term, I guess we’ve got to consider it to be another big sum of money that comes in from a sale. I think we’ve a quiet summer coming up but I’m hoping that this money goes towards us buying a top winger, who can compete with the lads for a place.

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                      #41283
                      Chucky McChuckface
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                        You might be Micky, I’ve never heard of him, is he a goalie? 25m million for a player I’ve never heard off sounds a bit rich to me, even in today’s crazy market?

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                        #41288
                        nine nine nine
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                          ยฃ25m for Wilson looks about right to me he proved himself to be a decent player in the Championship but Championship Clubs don’t spend big on players he’s probably a Bornemouth type player imo should he come to the PL.

                          I’ve watched him a few times and he’s been decent without pulling up any trees.

                          I heard Wolves might be interested in him which would be a good move for the lad.

                          Any player is only worth what someone else is prepared to pay for them.

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                          #41296
                          Oz
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                            LFC needs a playmaker & quality striker that isnโ€™t a poacher but a worker. Easier said than done. I do think we are good value to finish 2nd again as we have stability in management etc but city only need a couple of buys & they will win the EPL again, especially if they cop a C/L ban. The only way I donโ€™t see them winning the EPL is if they cop a transfer ban, even then theyโ€™ll still go close.
                            We seem to relish the C/L format & Iโ€™d expect to see us go well in that again. If we donโ€™t buy as Koop is hinting at, we will struggle to maintain a top 2 finish.

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                            #41299
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                              Matip has improved, but I do feel above all we need somebody to partner Van Dijk. I know we have Gomez, but in this particular playing area, we can beef up on heads to support us during injuries and promote using individuals a bit more sparsely to keep them in optimum shape.

                              Oz, good shout mate on a Striker and Playmaker. We’ve had the best Fulcrum of players and personalities knitting well together on and off the Pitch for a While. However, I’m more than Welcoming for anybody that will enhance us to improve and grow even better.

                              Cheers

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                              #41308
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                                Of course any player is only worth what someone will pay. That needs to go without saying more often ๐Ÿ˜› You have a point with regards to his ability, rather than potential. He is 22.

                                My thoughts were that he might go on to be worth a lot more than ยฃ5m some day but the risk factor is gonna be built into the price.

                                Ultimately, if Klopp doesn’t see what he wants in the lad then it’s best that he move on for his own sake and Wolves would be a good destination alright.

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                                #41309
                                threeps
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                                  The playmaker always comes up when discussing what Liverpool need, but do we really need one? The vast majority of our creative play is done by the fullbacks and to play that way you need a very hard working set of midfielders, something Liverpool have. This season there hasn’t been that many situations where we’ve looked lacking in creativity, although I can understand if someone says one would be good to mix things up if plan A isn’t working. But isn’t that what Shaq is for? And can we advocate spending a lot on a plan B?

                                  I often see on “that other site” that we need to replace Coutinho but I like to point out we are a far superior team now than when we had him. I’ve also read that we would of won the Leicester game for example if we had him in the team. Why? What’s to say he would of made any difference? Maybe he would have made our centre softer and more susceptible to the counter attack and instead of 1 point we got zero. (I’ve given up arguing on that site but thought it’s relevant to his topic to mention)

                                  I agree we need more depth up front and whilst I think the wide areas are straight forward to find someone for it’s the forward position that’s tricky. We do not play with a traditional no 9, if we did I would suspect a change to 4231 which Klopp tried for a bit but has reverted back to the 433. It would also hamper our main goal threats, and massive threats they are as indicated by the golden shoes, of Mane and Salah, as everyone would be trying to occupy the same space.

                                  Saw the name of Gรถtze mentioned recently and I thought that might actually not be a bad idea. He has regained fitness and form but BvB have just bought T. Hazard and Brandt so maybe he would be available and he can both play the Firmino or the Shaq creative role. Hard worker too and Klopp loves him.

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                                  #41312
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    I would be surprised if Klopp doesn’t look to add a bit of creativity into the Liverpool midfield.

                                    It’s onef the few weaknesses and could make the difference in the tight games.

                                    Something like that must have been on Klopp’s mind when the was chasing Fekir albeit that ultimately broke down.

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                                    #41318
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                                      “I often see on โ€œthat other siteโ€ that we need to replace Coutinho but I like to point out we are a far superior team now than when we had him.”

                                      Said the same thing many times myself, so I ore than understand your line of reasoning. You’re right too in that our creative work in mostly done by our FB’s. I however wonder if we could still improve further. I mean I’ve asked myself this many many times throughout Klopp’s time here.

                                      So much of the team is actually in a “finished” state. I have it in quotes because you can only ever talk in relative terms I guess. Looking at what might not be there yet though, I think is midfield. Fabinho has been a game changer for us there and not just in terms of his performance levels but in the definition of roles. We were weaker with Coutinho in our side. People are quick to remember what he gave us but just as quick to forget what we didn’t get from him (defensive aspects of the game). Fabinho can do the DM job like nobody else at the club, so you’d have to wonder if we can now afford to carry someone like Coutinho, without losing so much.

                                      So, I think we have the chance to put someone in there who’s offensively better than Hendo. I’m not saying this as if I’m 100% sure of it because it’s always handy to have someone who is willing to put in the grind during a tough spell on a difficult game but it’s food for thought.

                                      I would take Coutinho back but only at a massive pay cut. So massive that it just wouldn’t be plausible. Klopp wanted Fekir before and maybe we should go back in with a lower bid than before and see what happens.

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                                      #41321
                                      threeps
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                                        Fekir is a no 10, not a midfielder for a 433. If we got someone like him it would mean a formation change. As I said Klopp did this for a bit to shoehorn Shaq into the team but for the second half of the season reverted back to his trusted 433. If Klopp continues with 433 I can’t see space for Fekir unless Salah or Firmino is sold.

                                        I’m a little skeptical about this injury thing, I think it was more of “Oh, Alisson is now available lets buy him and the much cheaper Shaqiri for the AM role rather than blow it all on Fekir”.

                                        For the more advanced midfielder in a 433 we have Hendo, Ox and Keita, sure that is enough. If we got another, will they be happy? Or do we sell one or two of them?

                                        Agree Mak, Fabinho has been great once he got used to the system. So calm with the ball and in the right position without it.

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                                        #41324
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                                          Ah yes sorry, you’re right of course. TBH, I don’t know a huge amount about Fekir other than the fact that we really wanted him to join us and him being a creative /attacking type.

                                          I also wondered about the Alisson thing. I kinda hope that wasn’t the case though because he went from being a transfer target, to being a victim of our transfer policy and that is unethical in my mind. I know we can’t expect pour clubs to act like saints but with all the rule breaking that Chelsea and City have done through-out the years, I want us to be something better than that. Apologies to the Chelsea and City lads for that, you had no say in your clubs dealing and are decent lads. No offense meant.

                                          As for midfield and what is enough etc, I can see us signing someone. Fekir isn’t suitable, well someone is and I bet we’ll go get them. I definitely don’t want us changing formation. the 433 is too good with Fabinho to just abandon. Ox and Hendo are both quality players but I wonder if they are ,good enough and physically reliable enough to play the role that we need.

                                          Im gonna predict that we sign a creative midfielder.

                                          I don’t agree that we need to go after a CB, like some. Matip was really brilliant, most improved player for us last season. Gomez is fantastic and cant get back into the team. If Lovren goes then we replace him with a squad player, not some world class signing. It’s not needed. Back up for Robertson?> I dunno, Milner can cover. We’ll get another top season from him at least.

                                          So that least a potential attacking player like Brandt or Werner and it also leaves the role discussed. Other than that, we’re a perfect side. I cant believe Im saying it but it’s true.

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                                          #41325
                                          Nike19
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                                            I would slightly retract on the Playmaker and go for an out and out Striker. Good point 3ps.

                                            We had too help from Gini, Milner and Van Dijk on Goals though would always welcome another attacking player. Ideally, a Striker.

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