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HH, that’s exactly how I feel man and the reason i said that others might not be as disappointed as myself, was because I think most Liverpool fans arent that bothered about the points record. I figured people would think I was just whining but ya, momentum is so important and the image your team has to the other sides is vital. if teams smell blood, they’ll work harder cause they think they can get something from the game and we’ll give them that…
As for those players, ya, they probably arent good enough. We’ve got to make an effort to improve the squad I guess but I’d have taken no purchases, if we could have gone on and smashed the points record.
I was pretty confident we could win back to back titles but now I’m really thinking we won’t. Maybe Im just being negative. we’ll see. very poor show from us though since we locked it down. The team need a kick up the bloody arse for the remaining 2 now, seriously.
As for Firmino. He does need to score more but I still love him. I don’t want him replaced but he was better than this a year ago.
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if this was how we started next season then id be worried but come on lads
we just won the league. even roy keane says the motivation drops off after winning the league
its been 30 years. i was disappointed with last night but i got over it quick enough
we are champions. try and enjoy it as difficult as it is in these circumstances
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true enough Sean, I mean Im not absolutely furious, just disappointed. As for enjoying being champions, I guess but really we’ve been champions a long long time now. I guess we’ll get to see them lift the trophy and that will be pretty cool, even though it won’t have fans but I think they have something planned to spice it up a bit. If I were them I’d have some kind of pyrotechnics. Maybe get some RAF to fly over with streaming red smoke 😉 If we can’t have fans there, we can give them something to see on TV.
As long as the lads are fit and firing when next season starts, I guess I won’t mind but even then, these losses will be in the minds of every opponent regardless. We’ll have to smash our way through 6-8 fixtures to set things straight.
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Mak, the trophy without fans is crap mate but me and my mates are going out Wednesday. Place is a Liverpool pub and it will be hopping.
People were screaming out for players last season and we signed no one and did well
We aren’t going to make any big signings. I’ll be shocked if we do.
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Reminding ourselves that we’re still in a Pandemic, it’s easy to slip into the moment when the team or individual players aren’t performing that we make a point of new signings. On the firm basis of strengthening the squad to. All valid and vital in the long run.
The fact of the matter economically in an current reality is that we haven’t been able to generate for a fair period of time Revenue received from Supporters entering through our Turnstiles.
Look at the impact it has had for example on Man United who hold a Massive Stadium Capacity.
Think towards the impact on Boston Red Sox. FSG’s hand is forced as with others in big percentages where if anything, there’s going to have to be cut-backs and that period of ‘catch up time’.
I read the other day online about Arteta pointing out the job he has on his hands. I mean, a certain one of the players is on 350k a week. Is there any wonder there’s no money available for signings?
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Ireland is essentially virus-free at this stage but ya, a packed pub would not be a great idea.
I will say that I’m extremely unhappy about Ireland being the only nation in the EU who allows American tourists. We’ll definitely get a 2nd wave because of that alone.
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Well Sorry I didn’t mean a packed pub. You have to sit down and eat and keep your distance. There will be no standing etc . Ireland’s pub rules are
2 hours
You must order food
You can only sit with 6 people max
So that’s my plan and I’ve fine it twice alreadyIt’s safe . It’s not like the uk were it’s a free for sll
Mak, Ireland is slipping back
Sure phase 4 had been put back 3 weeks. People are getting very concerned again
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Some slip back is inevitable and early concern about it is very healthy. They need to close borders with America though, total smegging madness that we’re allowing Texan tourists to wander around spreading the illness they think its a bloody hoax.
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Ye that is absolutely crazy mak
We are advised not to travel but are still letting people in from badly infected countries ???
I cannot stand our new government and sound much rather listen to Leo who I’m no big fan of at all
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The Irish leader, or taoiseach, Micheal Martin, told Parliament on Tuesday that while there had been much conversation about American tourists, “the numbers are quite low coming in from the U.S.”
What a stupid thing to say. The numbers don’t need to be high, the fucking eegit. Bringing in a constant stream of people from hotspots is RECKLESS and criminal. I’m not super anti FF but it’s this kind of stupid shit that makes me take a step back from them. If it flairs up again and is traced through this avenue then whoever is responsible needs to go to prison and that’s that. Literally killing people so we can get a little tourism money from America? You’d think this would be some kind of joke and that we’d be smarter than this. What’;s more, I can’t believe there isn’t a commotion about this. I mean, we’re all self-isolating, going without a lot (mostly social things), only for this to be going on.
I don’t watch RTE etc but since I’ve heard literally nobody bring this up, that it’s not being discussed on the air at all.
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Going to raise a topic that I know will get a few enthusiastic replies, that is Joe Gomez. I know a lot of you rate him very high, maybe to a level that sounds like he is World Class, but I am starting to doubt him.
A couple of years ago I thought this lad was going to be a star. He seemed to have everything, pace, good positioning, reasonable in the air and could play. He’s has a number of injuries that always seem to reset his progress but earlier this season I thought alongside VvD he was starting to look back to his best. But that’s changed, now he looks hesitant, short of confidence and next to no leadership ability. He seems too passive, letting VvD dictate the defensive part of the team and a number of errors have crept into his game. And it’s not just the few games since restart, before then he looked poor.
He’s 23 now so not a kid anymore. I think he would be behind Matip if Matip wasn’t injured. Centre backs don’t really rotate so if Matip stays fit that would put him as no 3 and basically as cover for all 3 defensive positions. I cannot see him accepting that, he’s a full England international after all.
Matip, as we all know, is made out of glass so Gomez is still going to start a lot of games. But there are strong rumours that Liverpool are after a new first choice CB. I don’t mean K2 as he will be too expensive, but someone like Diego Carlos from Sevilla. We are pretty skint so would need to shift some players first but if we did sign a new CB where does leave Gomez? If Liverpool are genuinely looking to sign a new CB, has Klopp already lost faith in him?
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3ps, I’m in the minority. You’re second paragraph detailed is the Perfect Assessment and they’d be my observations and reasons as to why I feel Van Dijk needs a world class partner.
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“It’s safe . It’s not like the uk were it’s a free for sll”
Not sure you’re right there Sean there’s all sorts of rules about going to a Pub in England it’s certainly not a free for all as you suggest!
A Liverpool pub in Ireland on the night when everyone has had a few drinks and the PL title is to be presented sounds like a recipe for a disaster in respect of social distancing to me.
I guess it’s not just us over here that might get things wrong.?
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Threeps, I really don’t agree with you there (shock horror huh :P). I think Gomez’s mistakes have been over-blown, except his return. Like with Fabinho, I’m open to being proven wrong but I think when the new season starts, Gomez will be back to top form. Matip was briefly brilliant but as you say, he’s made of glass so just no chance. I would be shocked if we weren’t after a new CB, as we have 3 CBs with a lot of time out due to injury , over the past few years. I have my fingers crossed that Gomez’s ones were freak occurrences but you can never be sure. Lovren and Matip can’t be relied upon though and I’m kinda shocked that we gave Lovren a new contract. In this climate perhaps we can’t afford to replace him and he’s not a terrible player but we can do a lot better, especially for the wages that he would be on. I don’t know what they are but he was a big signing when we got him. I don’t dislike him but jesus he makes too many mistakes and just gets dragged out of position way way too easily to fit into our defence.
As for Joe though, I would always trust Klopp over my own opinion but I would definitely be disappointed to see us replace him and the only player I’d be interested if that were the case, would be Koulibaly. Too expensive perhaps but I wouldn’t want to downgrade. I guess we’ll have to wait and see Threeps. I assume that much like myself and Keita, you would only love to be proven wrong.
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Nine, in comparison to Ireland, the Uk has been a free for all though, even if that is an over-statement, if you were being specific.
Now, I’m not saying we’ve been perfect, just a few posts up i was raging about our absolutely MORONIC tourism policy. I won’t go off on that again, it really fucking upsets me that we could be so stupid. That aside though, things are really really good for the virus here, it’s all but gone and the sign of a 2nd wave was seemingly battered down also (we’ll know which way or the other in a week I think).
I will say that I also don’t agree with Sean about going to a pub for the match and think you’ve got a very valid point there regards to drink + celebration – social distancing. I’m not sure it can be achieved either but given how they say it’s a 1 in a million chance of catching the virus in general public contact now, I won’t be getting on Sean’s nerves about it.
I’ve not been perfect through this virus lately either. I’ve met up with family over the past 2 weeks, there are extenuating circumstances there. My mother was in the middle of renovating a new house when things landed and she was left with an un-livable house, so she’s had to stay at my sisters and also my aunts at various times through this… I know, really bad timing for that shit eh. My sister works in Dunnes stores (like Tesco), so she’s on the front lines also.. and she’s split up with her husband at the same time, really nasty time for some people.
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Mak, everyone has made mistakes and those that stand out for me from our side are the lockdown starting too late, flights allowed to land from all over the world without any checks or limitations until recently and I’m not sure we’ve not rushed back too quickly with lifting certain lockdown rules and there are others like the Care Homes etc etc. So you’ll get no disagreement from me on our mistakes.
My point simply was that Sean is completely wrong when he said “It’s safe . It’s not like the uk were it’s a free for all” because there are all sorts of restrictions with Pubs in England.
And if the Liverpool Pub where Sean intends to watch the match in Ireland maintains social distancing by the end of several pints and the PL trophy being presented then I’m a Liverpool fan.?
Good luck to Sean and his pals I hope they don’t need it.
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Yeah Mak I knew you’d answer how you did but there’s no right or wrong on this just opinions. I really hope Gomez does return to form as I like the guy and there were times when I thought he was turning into one of the very best. But if the rumours are true about a new partner then that could be the end of Gomez at Liverpool.
I’m not one to accept the argument that people get injured or lose form so everyone gets a chance to play. To me players have their playing status and if that’s 2nd choice centre back when you expect to be first choice then there could be problems. You hear about it all the when players don’t get picked when they think they should, especially for big games. This is why I’d be concerned for Joe if we sign a big name CB.
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In Ireland we are all seated and people have to keep their distance. The pubs aren’t packed or really busy. They can’t be or they will be shutdown . The pubs are really restaurants in Ireland at the minute nine And you are only allowed to sit in them for two hours
You book your table for two hours then have to leave so probs wouldn’t get the match in anyway mate when I say busy I mean, busy but organized. I’ve been in two for food and been gone in two hours with everyone keeping their distance
Maybe I got a bit excited by saying several pints.
What are the rules in England with regards pubs as I’ve just seen pictures of people falling out of pubs
Is there a time limit?
How many can sit together
Do you have to order food?What are the restrictions in English pubs
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I think Gomez’s greatest asset is his pace which is obviously critical to a side like ours that plays a high line so that he can quickly chase back. Van Dijk is the more commanding without question. I wonder if the question mark with Gomez is whether he’s started to get a bit cocksure of himself and perhaps Klopp has seen this and something in his attitude which is why he’s maybe looking for someone else, if the rumours are true.
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He’s hasn’t been great since the restart. No one really has
He’s been immense all season after a really slow start
Him and vvd had only conceded 7 goals in 25 mins when they played together before the restart
He’s 22. Only playing centre back the last two years.
I highly rate him and I wouldn’t start doubting him yet at such a young age.
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