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999, i think liverpool should bow out and we should step in ๐
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“but itโs not like Liverpool didnโt know they were competing in the Club World Cup in December “
Nine you make it sound like the situation is Liverpool’s fault, what exactly did you expect them to do? Forfeit the tie? Play the kids increasing our chance of losing? Oh wait we did that.
The EFL had known that an English team would be playing in the Club World Cup as early as 8th May so surely they should of foreseen the chance this situation could occur and shoulder the blame?
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threeps, as I said I’m sympathetic to Liverpool’s fixture problems my point was where Liverpool find themselves in December shouldn’t have been a suprise to the Club it was always likely to happen.
Personally I think talking of pulling out of a competition once you’ve entered is unacceptable.
The only two options imo are to find another date ie January which currently looks the most likely solution or play a scratch team v Villa whilst the first team squad battle it out for the Club World Cup.
Suggestions that Liverpool might pull out from Klopp last night was perhaps understandably said to put pressure on the EFL in order for the EFL to find a suitable compromise date which I’m sure both the EFL and Liverpool will do.
Unfortunately or perhaps more importantly fortunately success always adds lots of extra fixtures which are always difficult to deal with no matter who the Club is.
Clubs just have to get on with it and accept the difficulties they face which is because of how succesful they have been/are. United didn’t enter the FA Cup one year due to the problems they faced in competing for the Club World Cup.
Tell you what though I would much rather that Chelsea were wrestling with Liverpool’s current fixture problems as I suspect most non Liverpool fans would.?
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Stevo@1:43pm Lol! Of course you do.?
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Almost as if the big teams were seeded for the draw to avoid them clashing too early in the competition. Would not be surprised if the big two are not kept apart when the semi final draw is done as well. Four of Premier League’s current top 7 remain. Who said this was a Micky Mouse competition that the bigger clubs just take for granted? Oh right 999 I am on the wrong site. It is probably not very wise of me to ask but where is he anyway? Not complaining mind you ๐
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67, don’t tempt fate mate.?
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the LC problem is a great problem to have but at the same time, it’s something that parties need to be as flexible as possible with because it’s also not a problem that came about by choice.
I said before that the bigger more successful clubs should have bigger squads but I guess I just mean players in general. We have youth players and we should use them in the LC. We have reserve and fringe players who need game time, especially to help us through the tougher proper matches. Admittedly, the latter stages of the LC become important but the World Championships trumps it for me. So, I say only this. If a decent fixture cant be found then we have every right to opt out, or play the kids. They are one and the same, kinda, so just give the kids that experience and move on to the important matches.
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“Almost as if the big teams were seeded for the draw to avoid them clashing too early in the competition. Would not be surprised if the big two are not kept apart when the semi final draw is done as well.”
I never get this kind of talk. Liverpool have already drawn Arsenal. They are not keeping PL sides apart and you should bare in mind that random draws will almost always have perceived patterns in them. that’s mathematics.
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Mak, just to confirm I’m not having a go at anybody but I don’t think any Club no matter the circumstances should be allowed to drop out of any competition once they’ve entered it.
I’m sure that the EFL will find a solution with Liverpool probably by moving their Qtr Final to the date of the Carabo Cup Semi Finals and by playing the second Semi Final a week or two later which seems the sensible compromise.
Clearly given their current fixture list December is not an option for Liverpool and the World Club Cup has to be Liverpool’s priority.
In the unlikely event that a new agreed date for the Carabo Cup Qtr Final can’t be found then I wholly agree with your “so just give the kids that experience and move on” . But I don’t think it will come to that. Cheers 9’s
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I agree nine, no point complaining about extra fixtures.
Big test for us to see how we deal with all these games but Iโm looking forward to it
Really want to win world championship aswell
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Doesnt look like they will move the fixture and pool will have to play 2 teams in 2 different comps….
either this should have been thought of and adjusted on the strong chance its happened (as it has) and if not then pool should have bowed out of one of the comps, tho unfair of them to have to…its the schedulers thats the issue in this one not the club IMHO
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Stevo, haven’t seen that reported all the reports that I’ve read are consistent with the Sky Sports report below from yesterday which seems the most sensible solution to me.
I hope that’s the outcome because the other solutions are unsatisfactory imo.
“The EFL are open to rearranging Liverpoolโs Carabao Cup quarter-final tie against Aston Villa for the week of the semi-final first-leg ties.”
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you might be right 999, its the PL that wont move fixtures, nothing yet form the carabao cup lot….
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Stevo, there seems to be rightly imo a desire from the EFL to help Liverpool out by moving the Carabo Qtr Final v Villa to the date of the Carabo Semi Finals and then moving that Semi Final to a new date in January. I understand that the PL won’t move the Liverpool PL fixtures.
Whatever happens the World Club Cup and Liverpool’s fixture congestion will be very testing for them but as always that’s the price of success and we would all gladly swap places with Liverpool.
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The EFL Cup final is on 1 March and Klopp questioned the logic of the competition having two-legged semi-finals.
“After a very busy schedule in December, there is two [legged] semi-finals,” he said.
“It is an easy decision for me to say: ‘OK, if you keep that competition, why have two (legged) semi-finals?'”
BBC Sport understands the EFL is not planning any change to the format of the two-legged EFL Cup semi-finals.” BBC Sport.
I think this is a fair and important point raised by Klopp, whilst two legged Semi Finals have always been a League Cup tradition I think it would make sense from perhaps next Season to move to a one legged Semi Final for the League Cup like the FA Cup.
The only problem is that in the interest of fair play a one legged Semi Final would need to be played on a neutral ground midweek and obviously fans travelling midweek to a neutral ground is not as easy as it it is at a weekend.
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Steveo – I think Liverpool are blameless in this surely. If they’d withdrawn from the comp they would have been beaten with the nsame stick that was used to beat United when they withdrew from the FA Cup. All Liverpool can do is play the fixtures that are put in front of them and as long as they are reasonably scheduled, that’s I’m sure what they will do.
As 9 says, I’m sure they’ll play the Villa game when the semis are being played…it really is the only option
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If Liverpool were to leave their youth behind to play the โLeague Cupโ I think the vast majority of neutrals would be supporting them….Pagan
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Just trying to Catch up – busy on late, then early back to back. Tired. I don’t or not aware of the full ins and outs, but it seems to me to a degree, some trace of Klopp expected us to lose.
I don’t understand why he’s winding himself up over this and this perhaps could be a new Trend set Positively going forward:
Allow his Assistant Manager to Take Care of ‘Template 2’ Of the Team. All Good. As Long As 11 Healthy and Fit Dedicated and Committed Players are Ready, Liverpool should be able to Essentially Find A Way.
If you Genuinely Want To Be Successful and Try on All Fronts, you have to be Resilient, Flexible and effectively be able to ‘burn your Candle at Both Ends.
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So the decision has been made, no change to the fixture dates.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50309214
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