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I think Jose is playing us all. Utd are no were near in a bad of state as he is making out
He knows himself here is a good squad there already. The big players just need to perform better.
I don’t think he will be gone by Christmas. He’s playing the media etc
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I quite like the idea of a Maureen Meltdown, 200m more spunked on players, sacked on Christmas Eve and ZZ Top-bloke taking over for New Years… bloody entertaining for us ABBA’S!!!
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Jose favourite with the bookies to be the first PL Manager sent off under new rules in the League and FA Cups. I suspect Klopp won’t be far behind him in the betting.?
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Very bad and sad for United profile to have such a seriouly demented person as their face.
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Ed, I think Jose is playing the media to a tee. New players will come in this week and utd will start the pl season well.
He has everyone believing utd are in a drastic state when they are clearly not. No way would I write them off
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Nah I think it’s just a matter of time Sean if I’m honest. I can see us dropping points on Friday already and him having a big rant about not getting the players he needed.
On another note, did anyone read Gerrard’s post match comments after Rangers first game? Gerrard has never hidden his admiration for Mourinho and said he’s dreamed of playing under him. Go and read his comments and you can definitely see he’s been inspired by him! Already creating a feeling of “the world is against us” after one game!
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Moos-What?Lol
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Yes there was a time when footballers and football managers were the worst hooligans in sport but I am sure they will be disappointed now that cricketers have in recent years overtaken them.
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These are the defensive lineups 2 years ago.
Watford 3 Manchester United 1
De Gea, Valencia, Bailly, Smalling, Shaw
Leicester 4 Manchester City 2
Bravo, Sagna, Kolorov, Stones, Zabeleta
What has changed between both sides?
It is hilarious that the CEO of Manchester United, an ex investment banker, believes he can build a team better than a man who has won more PL titles than the other 19 managers combined.
If people believe Pep can work under the same conditions as Jose, then they are deluded considering Pep struggled to work with the likes of Kolorov, Sagna, Zabeleta, Clichy and Bravo.
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But ole the two centre halves today were Jose signings. Two central midfielders and lackau aswell mate. I can’t bekueve some utd fans think giving Jose money is the solution
He’s spend hundreds of millions in 2 years.
It’s have no identity. They have no style of play really. Not having a go, just st saying what I see. They don’t pass the ball quick. I just don’t k ow which way the play
I still wouldn’t write Jose off but after 2 seasons utd should have at least a style of play. They do when they play the big teams which is a counter attacking style.
Just my opinion. Jose is doing everything he did in his final year at Chelsea. Criticizing his players and blaming everyone else.
Maybe utd board don’t want him wasting anymore money
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Question for you then, OGS, who would you rather have managing Man U, Jose or Pep?
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Thats the problem, not every player can be a success when bought. Pep has spent over 500m ans was allowed to replace his mistakes from the previous summer window, just imagine if they told him that he could not replace Bravo with Ederson. Imagine if they told him he could not spend 60m on Sanchez because he bought Sane for 40m a year prior. One manager is backed whilst the other isn’t. Jose gave Woodward 5 players to get and Woodward vetoed most of them. Also United bought alot of dross under Van Gaal. Whilst Pep had the likes of Aguero, De Bruyne, Fernandinho, Silva, Kompany, Sterling. Some being there since their last title win, adding that experience. The key players since Uniteds last title win have retired or left.
With Jose, I always questioned his style of play, imo he is trying to get the balance right. How many number 10s/forwards do United have that have been pushed out wide or playing deep i.e. Fellaini, Mata, Rashford, Martial. Thats why he is struggling and wanted proper wide players for example Willian and Perisic, a player Woodward refused to pay a extra £5m for, cannot say the same would have happened at City.
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Pep was told Sanchez numbers were crazy that’s why city didn’t sign him
You make some valid points but the problem with utd has been poor recruitment for years.
Pep has improved players big time. Who has Jose improved? Lingard?
Let’s be honest pogba has been nothing but average for two seasons and was a world record but. Utd have a very good squad. They are no were near in as much disarray as some try to say.
Jose is a top manager. He plays pragmatic football but if it deliver trophies like the 1st season then great. If it doesn’t then the fans will turn againest him.
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But William is nearly 30 so its another stop gap player for 65m?
Rumour was Perisic didn’t want to move. He’s 29 aswell.
He’s had two years and no balance. What do utd need in your opinion?
Centre back and wide player?
Martial would be a star in a team
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Have to disagree about Sanchez. City put in a £60m bid for him last summer and Arsenal did not sell because they could not find a replacement.
Cannot disagree with the rest Sean, if you watch the game today. Jose had to turn to a left winger, turned left back to play right back.
Not denying Pep has improved players, but he also inherited a miles better squad, yet was still given money to improve on that squad. Jose was given a poor squad and has been given money, but not as much as Pep. If roles were reverse would Pep do any better? Look at City’s star men, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Silva, Aguero, Kompany. All being at the club when he arrived. Imagine if he walked in a team that had a ageing Rooney, Carrick, Fellaini, Smalling, Rojo, Jones, Young, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin. With 150m less to spend compared to City, would he have done well. One club needed alot more work done than the other.
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Sean-
Although age plays a part, United lack that experience. Players who know how to get a team out of a rut. We have seen now experience players play a part with the last few title winners i.e Kompany, Fernandinho, Silva, Aguero, Cahill, Matic, Costa. United do not have experience at that level, the likes of Smalling, Rojo and others are just tripe.
Ferguson kept players like Robson, Bruce, Pallister, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Carrick because they provided that experience on and off the pitch.
If Liverpool had Gerrard and Carragher against Real Madrid they would have won imo.
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Valid points ole. I still don’t think it’s ate near as bad off as Jose made out a few weeks ago but there something not right
Maybe he fallen out with the board. I really don’t know but I wouldn’t write him off
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Good to read your posts SHW. You make some interesting points but you are wrong about Sanchez, City walked away this Jan when they didn’t want to match the money United offered this was widely documented. Mouriniho has bought some good players but he just cant get them to click. Sanchez and Pogba to name two are poor players under Mouriniho. Pep inherited an aging defence Zaha, Sagna their legs had gone and Vinnie is no longer reliable sadly.
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Jim
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/41084876
I was referring to this. Think it was on the final day of the transfer window last summer. City placed a £60m bid, but it depended on Arsenal finding a replacement. If Lemar joined Arsenal, then City would have got Sanchez for £60m. City walked away in January when United came in.
Agree with what you say, but this United team are still a few players short of mounting a proper title challenge. Pep did have to replace a ageing defence and was allowed to. Jose had to replace the attack, midfield, and defence. The only position that did not need replacing was the GK.
Pogba is just inconsistent, not sure if that is down to Jose. But when I saw him during his early days at Juventus he was inconsistent then too. I always said people overhyped him, I did not watch him for a few years before he joined United and some were saying he was quality. The Pogba I am seeing now is the same Pogba I watched during his early days at Juventus.
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