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9, that’s true, but for me I think daylight between is the way to go. Maybe also go with a “soft call” as they do with cricket, so that if it’s marginal you stick with the on field decision….Pagan
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It’s also called common sense, but the authorities thought the technology would save them from any work and that it would take care of everything. Will any heads roll after the debacle of this season or will it be the usual line trotted out that “lessons have been learned”?
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It’s the Wolves Manager I feel sorry for.
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Problem is it’s not the VAR system that’s at fault as IFAB rightly say “if a player is a millemetre offside then in theory he’s offside” so all the close calls going by the letter of the law in theory have been correct.
However VAR is applied to offsides there has to be some tolerances built in which allows for 100% consistency of decidions across the board and that means a concrete definition of what is and isn’t offside under VAR in respect of the super tight decisions of “if a player is a millemetre offside then in theory he’s offside” and whatever is decided by IFAB has to apply to all top flight football everywhere not just the PL
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Nine I actually agree mate if you are offside you are offside but I’ve seen lines drawn to try prove a player was offside. Firmino againest villa was onside for me but they spent 3 minutes trying to prove him to be off
It’s the same stuff mate. Inconsistent calls.
They said after Keane stood on Brighton’s Connollys toe that pens would not be given for that but then they give Mahrez a pen and it was a dive
Exact same thing happened to mane at villa and he was booked for diving !!
So it’s just ridiculous and it’s ruining the game now.
Clear handbills not given like in the spurs game like yday
It’s just embarrassing how many they are getting wrong
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The way it’s going you can see VAR being scrapped in its current form and this season going down in history as the season that never was…..Pagan
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PAGAN!! Dont say that in the year that Pool win it! 😉
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lol ? ha ha stevo.
The grealish goal yday was a joke. Chelsea had one ruled out againest Liverpool the same. Do they evenknowcwhat they mean by phases of play as I don’t think they do
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Snakey, that never crossed my mind ???…..Pagan
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you Sir are a BAD man!
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From potential bottlers, to being handed the title by VAR, and now the season that never was. Is it really going to be that painful for everyone if Liverpool win the PL?
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Sean@12:55pm,I agree mate and that’s why I’ve been saying something has to got to be tweaked to sort out the super tight offside decisions. For the rest you’re never going to make it 100% watertight with or without VAR.
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50944416
Is this the link you posted pagan?
Thought we had two clear pens last night.
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Seriously what’s everyone complaining about?
“According to FIFA, the VAR system had a success rate of 99.3 percent, up from the 95 percent of correct calls by referees without VAR.”?
If the FIFA figures are accurate you would have to question whether increasing the success rate on decisions by 4.3% is worth all the problems?
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I can see what’s being done with the different colours in lines protracted and projected, but whoever is behind it need for my POV be explicit. In Layman’s lol 😀
We don’t know otherwise whether we’re coming or going and I do think now, players are in this mindfulness in that hesitation to celebrate goals.
We’ve gone a bit DVLA!
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Credit to Michael Oliver for going to the TV monitor and changing his yellow card to a red card for Milivojevic in the Palace v Derby FA Cup tie.
The first Referee to consult the pitch side monitor in England to date I believe? And we need to see more of this from now on imo.
There is no VAR at non PL grounds which begs the question should VAR not be used in the FA Cup or at least not used until the latter rounds Qtr Finals/ Semi Finals when it is likely that all teams will be PL teams?
There was a very likely penalty call for West Ham in the Gillingham v West Ham game which VAR most likely would have picked up on review, as it happens it didn’t matter because West Ham won 2 nil but it might have mattered.
Surely it’s best if all FA Cup ties are the same for everyone.
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Just a thought…….the more people involved in makeing a decision the more likely any mistake will be interpreted in a different way….that is my opinion
If a decision cannot be made in less than a minute then the case in point is doubtful and the game should stay with the Referees decision. also keeping in mind..these guys watching and making decisions/or not are watching this before any of us has seen replays they look and judge on…so …this to me ..is even more time they have to make up there minds.
Technology flawed by humans
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Nine…but do you believe Fifa figures? What about some independent figures done by people who know what they are talking about. Please do not tell me Fifa know what they are doing with there track record
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Brian, that’s why I said in my post “If the FIFA figures are accurate”. ?
But it’s FIFA who instigated and introduced VAR and these are FIFA’s own figures which begs the question why did FIFA introduce VAR with all the inherent costs and problems to get an improvement of just 4.3% on accuracy of decisions and why isn’t somebody of merit in the media asking that of FIFA?
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Nine…I was not questioning your statement only if you believed the Fifa figures. Personally, I do not and your following comments confirm to me that they “produced” figures to prove a point and expense to ward off what is actually happening. This is more than just getting a decision right it is changing the fluidity of the game and the decision time taken is getting bigger…you will soon have time to go for a drink at the bar and come back and still await what has been decided. If we want the game to get better..scrap the offside…would that be so bad?????
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