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The old ‘Littlewoods Cup’ as formerly known held more prestige. More silverware means scope and hope for those teams realistically unable to challenge and win the Title.
The inception of the Champions League, money, and being able to qualify finishing 4th changed the attitudes.
Parallel to that, Leicester showed they’re more interested in Prem status than to field a strong team when in the Semi Final of the EFL Cup.
This is what I like about Pep and Jose because they strive to try and win EVERY trophy.
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There are already three Leagues in the PL the top 6, the mid table Club’s probably another 6 and the bottom 7. There is no way that you can bolt on the Championship to the PL and there’s no sense in trying to do so.
Even Celtic and Rangers would struggle to survive in the PL over 38 games despite their massive support and there would be all sorts of problems with their fans I don’t know how many on here have ever attended a Glasgow Rangers game I have and it was frightening much more frightening even than going to Millwall away. But it will never happen because it breaks UEFA rules and would set up a very problematical precedent.
Anyway I’m not sure why we’ve even got into discussing restructuring the PL when it’s the most successful League in the world.
This thread is about whether we evolve to a European Super League or not we evolved to a European Cup when even the English FA didn’t want it that then evolved into the Champions League which was for more than just Champions it’s merely a hop skip and a jump from the current CL to a midweek European League and it would give match going fans a chance to see everyone of the major Club’s at their grounds which the current CL doesn’t.
It will happen one day for sure though whether you’re for or against it, it’s progress just like the European Cup and the Champions League was progress.
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It’s a shame that the FA Cup has lost a bit of its gloss but the reality is Club’s are businesses and the CL provides significant revenue and top players want to play in the CL so playing in the CL helps you to retain players and helps you to recruit players.
I’ve had some great League Cup experiences including Wembley Finals but the League Cup will always be a 4th priority trophy and is vulnerable certainly in its current form should/when a European Super League evolves.
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Nine, it seems so far, I’m seeing things differently to you on this particular subject. Other than the revenue, I’m not sure how a Super League would be progress, progress for who exactly.
You seem to lean more towards in acceptance of Football being a business.
I am against the idea because I don’t want this to turn into another money-making machine, a bit like the Prem. The Gulf as far as quality of players go is because over the last 25 years, we’ve allowed a stature of more overseas players than to nurture players from our own soil.
I don’t know why people would be against a Two Tier Premier League – why not?
I’m against it because I dislike a lot of the European Teams, in fact practically all of them – La Liga included, because of the money, corruption and underhand tactics on the pitch.
Plus, I wouldn’t want to be playing the same type of teams EVERY week like a Man City, Man United or a Chelsea.
I don’t even look forward in the Prem and the head-to-heads as such because of the level of threat, and if I’m honest as far as my team goes, I’m after now for a more easier life and for my club to win competitions comfortably.
Anyway mate, agree to disagree – plenty of other topics to chew on. Cheers
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Nil, as I said a European Super League wouldn’t replace the domestic Leagues it would replace the CL.
A way of yet though mate but football is a business and has been for a long long time.
Anyway Palace tomorrow for you they can be difficult to break down but score early and I’m sure Liverpool won’t have a problem. Take care. Cheers 999
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The Champions League should have been short, sweet and meaningful i.e. Only for Champions of respective leagues. This would also give fluidity of teams changing, except for Scotland where it would be Celtic every year
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Brian, whilst I get where you’re coming from it’s never going to happen now mate the Champions League is too big and too succesful now.
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Chuckles, quite agree about the cups in some respects, the league cup should be optional or an U21 for the premier teams, the FA cup I’d like to see as all clubs in from round 1,
let’s see more prem teams going to the lower leagues and distributing the wealth a bit more…Pagan_____________________________
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Wouldn’t want Liverpool in it full stop.
I’m pretty sure our fanbase and owners get a say. TBH, didn’t think it would stem this far. My whole thesis is that I want the others to go whilst for us, we can stay and build on to win Domestic Trophies.
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Nil, you would want the other big clubs to go play in the super league and for us to opt out? Sorry lad but there is absolutely no chance of that happening, if it becomes a possibility and honestly, even though I am siding on the side of caution in terms of what to expect/hope for, you could be killing the club by making such a decision.
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Just wanna say Nil though, I’m proud of you chap. You’re back to being a great poster. I won’t won’t go on, even though I could but you’ve done well.
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Morning Mak thanks mate. We don’t all agree all the time but always enjoy a passionate debate ?
At work now for a while but will be ready for the 3pms.
Need to meanwhile chat to Virgin about my data allowance as I’m being charged for this – yikes!??
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Agree with Mak if a European Super League came about Liverpool would be in it they couldn’t afford not to be and FSG are too smart not to ensure that. But it’s a way off yet and it wouldn’t be at the expense of domestic football because none of the major Club’s in Europe want that.
Just want to endorse what Mak said you’ve come back on the site and are an asset to the site now Nil and long may it continue. Cheers 999
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Dunno, 27, so what would your Top10 for a Super-Duper-League be? I’m not 100% sure Pool would be shoe-ins, they would be right on the bubble… but would they make it?
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Nine…I would agree “too big_” but if they saw the future as being not successful due to the challenge of global football leagues it would make sense to have a real shorter version of just champions The rate we are going we are not going to have time for PL fixtures or FA Cup which is still my preference
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I’m not getting drawn into that one Chucky.?
There’s all sorts of ways it could be decided though and some Club’s might miss out but if it happens Club’s won’t opt out by choice imo because if nothing else the revenues will be too great.
I think also it would go wider than just 10 teams too. But it’s all just speculation currently.
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A super league wouldn’t happen over night, but as Brian said above, more room would have to be made to start to accommodate it, and you could see the premier league therefore getting trimmed down to fewer clubs. I think when things like that start happening as well as the domestic cups getting weaker and weaker, these will be the signs that it’ll just be around the corner.
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A 16 team midweek European Super League with an increased squad size to cope, PL reduced to 16 teams, no involvement in the League Cup for Super League Clubs or maybe teams in the Super League enter their Under 23 teams in the League Cup, no FA Cup replays, Super League teams don’t enter the FA Cup until the 5th Round. It’s all doable with a but of time and thought.
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I’ll go along with the 16 team, leagues of 8, home and away, everybody guareentted 14 games, then top 2 from each (4 in total), semi final (2 legged) and final, winners still play 17 games as they do now.. and no disruption to national leagues…
Now, the qualifying… 🙂
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