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Also I don’t believe do you know who I am comments.
Not sure many footballers say that but that’s sounds like bullshit
Maguire is supposed to be a decent bloke and I think the Greek police might have fecked him over
Hopefully he gets his appeal
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“Don’t you know who I am”?”Don’t you know who I play for”?What a prick!😁😁😁😁£80m player.
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I highly doubt he says that mav.
Load of people saying that’s not him at all
That bullshit line is always thrown out by the papers
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I don’t know Sean, we will never know exactly what happened but seemingly nice young guys can turn to total a-holes after a few beers. A few years ago Ledley King was arrested (I think for d+d) and spent the night in jail. I was told he kept shouting things like “You know who I am bruv? You know how much money I have? I earn more in a week than you do in a year” to the custody Sergeant. And yet Ledley always seemed a nice enough chap.
There’s a whole load of stories going round. Utd fans defending him with stories that he was just looking out for his sister who had been injected and that the Officer he assaulted was undercover and mistaken as one of the Albanians. Others are pointing at the lack of evidence that she was even injected, the lack of puncture wound or needle, or that she even refused a blood test. The things he apparently said differ from whose typed it and what their agenda is. How anyone other than those present know all this I will never know. What I do know is if I or someone close to me had been injected I would seek immediate medical help and demand for everything possible to be checked for, but then maybe that happen anyway.
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Ye that’s it mate. It’s the two stores from both sides are totally different
He’s adamant he did didn’t do anything and they thought the sister was being driven to a hospital??
He was found guilty but I’m sure there’s a bit more it it
Just trying to look at it ftom a different perspective and I don’t care who he plays for. I just think it’s not akways the footballers fault and there’s lies somewhere
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as threeps says, its all good with these character references but how many times have we seen these ‘nice’ people act out of character. completely different subject but just look at what is happening in the states with Ellen. She has this reputation for being one of the nicest most generous people going but it turns out shes a nasty piece of work and is a completely toxic person. sometimes people spend their lives being fake and its only when things like this happen they reveal their true character. not saying he did it, but I can believe it.
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Threeps it might be Utd fans repeating the “sister” story but it’s not just taken from thin air. Those stories come from reports from people who were there.
As for “I would seek medical help…” I’d like to think so too but you can’t honestly tell me you would react as calmly as you suggest, especially with alcohol involved, if your sister was (as is alleged) stabbed with something.
Do we know the above to be true? No of course we don’t. But we don’t know of the “do you know who I am…” to be true either. We can only go by what is being reported and the reports suggest his behaviour was motivated by an attack on his sister. If that’s proven to be bullshit then so be it.
As I said yesterday, I find it incredibly difficult to believe he’s just had a few beers and thought “I know, I’ll go and punch that police officer”.
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The character references are all a bit pointless anyway imo. I don’t care whether he’s usually a nice guy or not. If he’s done this without provocation, he’s an idiot, full stop. If there’s more to it and it involves him sticking up for his sister, he’s doing what most of us (Threeps apart) would do in terms of defending our family. It’s a hell of a lot more believable that there’s a reason for him to do this than he’s just decided it would be a laugh to punch the police.
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P.S provocation or not doesn’t change the fact that what he’s alleged to have done is wrong. It merely, in my opinion, helps explain why he’s done it and I personally would fully back him if those particular stories about his sister are true.
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ed – i agree. i mentioned in the eric dier situation that even though he deserved punishment he was right in what he did. I would have done the same and I’m sure others would. but others said he was wrong and you can’t do things like that even if your family are being attacked/threatened.
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Ed, he was found guilty of aggravated assault on an officer, attempted bribery and resisting arrest. How the fuck does that equate to defending his sister? And how fucking dare you suggest I wouldn’t defend my family. I would love to see you in person give me a reason to defend my family and see how you get on.
The prosecution, whose case was found to be proven in a court of law, state that he said “Do you know who I am? I am the captain of Manchester United, I am very rich, I can give you money, I can pay you, please let us go.” Not just some crap from Utd internet legal warriors.
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Woah Threeps, really no need for the childish threats on an Internet forum. I interpreted from the below that you wouldn’t defend your family too in Maguire’s shoes if those alleged reports are true. If you’re saying otherwise, then I misunderstood. In which case, we all seem to agree that we’d also defend our family if what allegedly happened really did happen.
What I do know is if I or someone close to me had been injected I would seek immediate medical help and demand for everything possible to be checked for, but then maybe that happen anyway.
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Apparently the police were in pain clothes. So a drunk english man speaking to plain clothes Greek police might not have translated very well. Also to add, a couple of my best mates are what I would call nice stand up blokes. After 4 pints and a few tequilas they become massive pricks.
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People have been found guilty of things they have not done before
Seems all very rushed to me.
Defence team not given time to get their defence together
The police may have k own who he was off from the off and took advantage of that
Paxton, I said the same about dier
I’d have done the same
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Again, just to avoid any misunderstanding. I’m not for a minute defending him punching the police but it’s not all that hard to come to the conclusion that, if indeed the sister stories are true and plain clothed officers were involved, it was that which was the catalyst. Why on earth Maguire would potentially throw his career away by just punching a cop is unfathomable. Even Carragher said the “do you know who I am…” thing is likely bullshit.
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He said she said BS… essentially its another story of a footballer being a twat.. here endeth the off season lesson for psalm 26.08.2020 book of footydebate.
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Apologies for the language Ed but saying I would not defend my family was not on. I think you have misunderstood the points I am trying to say. Let’s forget it and move on.
I do not think he had a few beers and said to his mates “I know what would be funny, I’ll punch that copper!”. It is likely that something, probably to his sister, happened that provoked him. Red mist descended on him. I’m pretty sure it’s happened to all of us. He was arrested amongst other things for resisting arrest. Is it not reasonable to suggest that the punch happened at this point? If you’re raged and probably drunk and someone grabs you and you resist you will likely throw your arms about all over the place and possibly connect with the person.
What isn’t certain is if he knew they were the Police at the time, if he did then he is a complete tit that deserves everything he got, if not then you can understand his actions better. I am actually sitting on the fence on this one, I have no agenda one way or the other, I just don’t think people can say defending his sister is a viable excuse if you do not know exactly what happened.
Regarding what I said about my concern would be the welfare of the sister I stand by that. If someone is wielding a syringe and threatening a family member I would defend with all I have. The priority is to ensure their safety. I have actually been in this situation so know how I would act. But if a family member had already been injected with potentially an infectious disease or was showing signs of distress (think she passed out?) then whilst I would be very angry at the perpetrator I think I would still ensure the victim was ok first. Attacking and venting your anger is not the most important priority.
But maybe that happened anyway, I don’t know and likely never will.
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We’ve all been out as young lads and see people fight then fight the police or even hospital staff even say in A&E …. and at least some of these would be shocked and mortified they had done so when sober and worry about all kinds of things as a result, their job included
It’s also not surprising after a 4 day near continuous booze up (sure we’ve all had a stag party like this) that if a fight kicked off over protective of family and friends to just swing at bc anyone and they were in plain clothes so for me totally believable as an action with very little tonight or understanding
Then to find you’re nicked still drunk high on adrenaline and maybe now a bit scared to say what he (may) have said and in the morning think shit!!!I can see it all being true but clearly not a premeditated thing and with a serious incident that triggered what happened
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No need to apologise Threeps. It was wrong of me to suggest what I did. Apologies.
Good points
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Waspy-Not just Maguire,but I cant stand these rich people,in this case footballers,thinking they are above the law.i.e.Messi,CR7,Neymar,etc.Guendouzi going round telling others”I earn so much in a week”,twats.
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