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  • #46485
    Chucky McChuckface
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      3 Shredded Wheat??

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      #46486
      steveosnakeeye
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        pff FOUR

        loser

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        #46487
        Anonymous

          Did Bolton really let these players leave on free transfers?
          https://www.transfermarkt.com/bolton-wanderers/alletransfers/verein/355

          Sad to see Bolton go down the pan. We bought Cahill and Eidure Gudjohnsen in recent years.

          But I guess decisions like this one have cost the club.

          https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2016/1/22/10813848/the-crazy-deal-that-forced-rob-hall-out-of-bolton

          Surely this should indicate to small clubs academies are the only way to go to survive.

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          #46488
          Hightown hope
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            Phil Gartside and Sam Allardyce have a lot to answer for in my opinion. That was the start of the mismanagement. It’s really sad, and I feel for those fans who have lost their club, both at Bolton and at Bury

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            #46489
            steveosnakeeye
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              dot know how they are in this position but being PL regulars until 7 years ago and having the “parachute payment” when relegated should mean they were never in this position….must be some serious gross mismanagement at board level…

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              #46490
              nine nine nine
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                Bury gone and Bolton have a few more days to try and save thrmselves.

                Unfortunately it’s not just a dollop of money that can help these Clubs they need good and sensible owners too.

                Some terrible mistakes at the top must have been made at Bolton considering where they find themselves now.

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                #46491
                Nike19
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                  Personally, when seeing this situation from the outside and what it has become, I’m not one of those “only yourself to blame” types.

                  I am supportive for the future that something can be put into place by the FA and we collectively can work together as a community.

                  Going slightly into a tangent, the World isn’t Utopia. It’s possible in life to go through ups and downs and one in which at one point you could have the world at your feet. The next, total rock-bottom. In this country we have Credit Unions in place who those who can’t even be accepted for a Bank Account. We help, we offer support as that’s what we do (certainly the society that I have grown up in).

                  What that in mind however, of course it begs the question in the direction towards the Owners and everybody associated from day-to-day running and ones who have the power, control and be able to make executive decisions.

                  “How has it been ‘allowed’ to get to this”?

                  Clubs used to be forced to cut their cloth and adjust, but the point of Parachute payments is a valid one that gives you a breather.

                  Leicester City circa 2010 was close to going into administration had it not been for an agreed consortium. If something can be secured to save Bolton, then god help them.

                  It’s not just a club, it’s something unique that would be ripped out of each and everyone affiliated and holding that love and affection.

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                  #46492
                  Anonymous

                    Doesnt this sort of thing come down to the FA’s fit and proper persons test? Surely it cant just be about financial modelling for a clubs future but also the people who forward such proposals… Does anyone on here have an idea how the FA adjudge what is fit and proper?

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                    #46498
                    Brian blue
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                      I am a sad a reso;ution could not be found but I guess anybody wanting to invest money into a business that is already seriously in debt is not investing to clear debts due to bad previous management. It also appears to me ,that is what the owner was looking for, so he could gain further advantage. The guy has had his bluff called. For Bury fans the best they can get out of this is to try and reform with a trusted investor and re apply to join a lower league and hopefully get back to where they were.
                      I live just 6 miles from Bury and we do our weekly shopping in Bury, a great place and I know how locals feel about this. I just wonder who owns the Bury ground, that is the next worry, I would hate to see it converted into a houseing estate and some land investors have it,, maybe planned it!!!! Cynical, I know but nothing surprises me in this “ME” world

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                      #46506
                      Nike19
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                        Brian, that final part of your last post is the harsh reality: some land owner choosing the avenue of property developers and the local council get their chunk of the cake to provide social housing to an otherwise already populated and over-crowded country. Sad but true.

                        As for any Investor, I don’t believe in any of this talk that they are a fan and wouldn’t hold any of them for granted. It’s all about seeing a business opportunity.

                        Planting the seed-watching it develop-

                        then seeing how far they can stretch it.

                        As far as Bury goes, maybe there’s hope out there for resurrection.

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                        #46525
                        nine nine nine
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                          I haven’t seen any suggestions of either Gigg Lane or the Reebok being up for sale hopefully that will never happen. No Club should be without their home Chelsea fans know all about that and Stamford Bridge stands on the most expensive land in the country but it will never happen now because the fans through the CPO own the pitch.

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                          #46528
                          Anonymous

                            Bury are done for. Bolton will be done for in 14 days.

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                            #46529
                            nine nine nine
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                              Mak, they will have to come back through the lower Leagues outside of the EFL but the supporters would have a Club hopefully. Bolton might still get out of it but they need the right owner.

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                              #46535
                              Nike19
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                                We had a scenario Re MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon.

                                I’m sure Bolton can be reborn, why not. But as Nine rightly points out, you have to start from scratch meaning right from the Bottom.

                                It wasn’t too long ago when I was watching on MOTD, players like Jay Jay Okocha and Kevin Nolan. Reebok looked a pretty good stadium too.

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                                #46537
                                Anonymous

                                  Bolton are the only PL side I’ve watched live actually. They played against the Liverpool legends in Cork.

                                  I’ll never forget the little scumbag who shouted out randomly “YOUR MY HERO JAYJAY!!” as he was on the ball near him on the line.

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                                  #46540
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Why did you think he was he a scum bag Mak?

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                                    #46552
                                    Pagan
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                                      Looks like Bolton will be ok, at least in the short term takeover completed according to the BBC….Pagan

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                                      #46553
                                      maverick1973
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                                        Bolton saved,Bury still in with a chance as apparently the money to buy them is available.

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                                        #46554
                                        nine nine nine
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                                          “BOLTON have been saved from potential extinction after a £10million offer from group Football Ventures was accepted – with the help of Pink Floyd’s drummer.

                                          Supremo Sharon Brittan and rock icon Nick Mason finally got their way after the family of late owner Eddie Davies – the major creditor – accepted a staggered payments deal.”

                                          Great news. Bury will com back again too albeit from the lower Divisions.

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                                          #46555
                                          Nike19
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                                            Some Better News emerging.

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