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I don’t think anybody is knocking the NHS or its staff, to be honest. I just think some, myself included, are suggesting that continually increasing budgets year after year isn’t the only solution. The money has to come from somewhere, we all know that. Just an idea about managing it better so there isn’t so much waste going on.
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Just as a side note, I see what Banjo’s cleverly and slight in naughtiness has done.
He creates such Threads to ‘Pass Time’ because he was the ‘Bored At WorK’ Poster from TT. He’s done what he’s done, and now he’s watching his beloved Tottenham Hotspur.
Got You Sussed! 😛 Wait till Mav sees this!
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It’s a simple Concept; It’s Numbers and Manageability.
I finished around 3:30 today from work having started at 7 from a 45 minute drive from work. All I experience Inner City is Traffic, Traffic, and More Traffic. I got home nearly Quarter-To-Five.
What’s the Local Government and Councils Done? Zilch. They Cant or Wont. Leicester’s Free Movement and we are ‘inundated’ with People Coming In Left Right Centre.
There is no Room To Breathe. Only 2 Mainstream Hospitals and that is a Disgrace.
If you want to allow the Numbers in then Fine, but then Have Facilities In Place In The First Place To Accommodate Them All!
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It’s part greater funding being needed, partly the fact we have a significantly bigger population who are living longer and partly because medical expertise is contributing to that.
I think it’s a good point about the management of it needing to work more effective and probably the whole thing needs looking at with fresh eyes get some of our best entrepreneurs involved on a consultancy basis.
I also think it would help if the NHS was taken away from being a political football maybe it’s time for cross party management of the NHS.
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It’s ultra disheartening to have to listen to BBC Radio Leicester on my drive to work and discover British people having to rely on Food Banks and having to go through a ‘Referral’ process in order to ‘qualify’. Two individuals exampled have their own health problems and are reliant from the Welfare System of £50 a Week.
Poverty I’m led to believe was bad in the 1960s. My Mum will vehemently account for this, but nearly 2020 and this.
There is Money there. But there is a Disparity. Landlords for one charging extortionate Rates in Rent. There’s no Regulatory at all.
Practically the lot fill me with any confidence whilst there is this in existence, but then, X Amount governed towards Foreign Aid.
This Country used to have Proper Foundations and Industries; Proper Work, In Production, Hosiery, Textiles, Manufacturing, Assembly.
Now Look At It.
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For me, We need those ‘Big Wide Boys’ Taxing. Properly?
The ‘City’ are on a different Planet to the Rest Of England. ‘Cordial’ in their own unique Bubble.
It’s sheer Greed.
No wonder for example, there’s been a divide like the North and South. You look at the Capital City now compared to how it was in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s?
Changed.
Completely. Those Red Telephone Boxes and Red Double-Decker Buses.
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Guys, I’m not sure politics is really a great way for us to be going down, given that we are already struggling with keeping the balance between teams etc…
Look, I guess I’m going to offend some on here and apologies for it but I do have a reasonably strong opinion on this and given the entire disaster that brexit has been from start to now, I think it’s warranted.
Firstly, I think that if you’re pro-Brexit, there’s a massive chance that you’re a proud idiot. There are some scenarios where a wealthy few might benefit from it but in general , it’s bad for you and the reason I’m not holding back on this is that your stupidity will cost my country billions and likely re-ignite the northern troubles.
I don’t take this lightly and I think that the brexiteers, in general are the closest thing that I would have to an old enemy. They are the imperialistic British, who want to take from other countries, by force if necessary and to not give. As an Irishman, you can imagine that I have no time for these people.
pride comes before a fall and a fall ye shall have but we all know that some deals will be done to stop anything catastrophic happening to the British economy, however the collateral damage to my own nation will remain.
The Brits want to leave the EU because they don’t want to be controlled by all these EU laws (mostly British influenced, or outright created laws btw).
it has been a campaign of misinformation, fueled by pride and arrogance. I’d laugh if it weren’t so serious.
I have 2 friends in cornwall whoa re diabetic, on is also addisons and he is pro-leave. he didn’t know that he was potentially voting himself into actually dying. With the addisons on top of type 1 diabetes, he’s voting with fire. He’s just one example of ignorance but we’ll never really be informed if we get involved int he lying and mudd throwing shitshow that is current politics.
Current politics does not look after your own interests and it’s got to change, fundamentally.
Now, if in this, I’ve offended you, I am sorry on some level. On another though, I see you as a problem. I’m just being honest.
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“2. An anti-semitic, trot, living in the past”
I assume you’re talking about the labour leader. I forget his name. He’s not actually anti-semetic at all though, from what I’ve seen.
Educate me if I’m wrong here but to be anti-Israeli, is ,not to be anti-semetic. By this I mean what the Israeli government does (they are the worst of the worst people on this planet).
You can be against the actions of a nations government and military without actually hating a people.
I am very anti-Israeli government/IDF. I’m pro people in general. We all say that we support the underdogs but that seems to stop at football. What has happened to the people of Palestine and Bosnia, from the IDF over the years is not just wrong but they’ve committed actual war crimes and gotten away with it. This isn’t just random bullshit. The actual official court of arbitration for war crimes have acknowledged and condemned Israel.
If you want to get technical about the terminology of “antisemitism “, well the people of Palestine are also semetic. It’s a region and don;t even start me on their foreign policy with their use of settlements.
we shouldn’t talk politics but if we’re going to just repeat the utter shit that we hear from an already biased and directive media then it’s on.
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Let’s not get into even more dangerous territory.
Whatever anyone’s individual political views may be let’s try and keep things respectful and reasonably friendly.
Nothing that’s said on here will make an iota of difference to whatever the final conclusion is of today’s General Election.
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Probably worth pointing out that Foundation trusts do have their own budget that they can do with what they will, with little to no pressure from central government. However if said trusts get a negative review from the cqc they may have foundation status stripped. The NHS has been poorly funded for a decade and poorly managed for far longer. But some trusts are getting it right.
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No harm in requesting for independence and a country to be governed by their own laws.
Originally, it was the EEC and about Customs and Trade. Free movement in extreme has killed it.
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I remember while working for the NHS regarding the waiting list,the 2 Goverments [UK & Germany] signed a deal to send the NHS patients on wating list for treatment to Germany,where there was no such thing.The UK would pay for the treatment,of course,but there wouldnt be a long waiting list.I remember flying to Frankfurt to visit our patients,and the strange looks on the faces of the staff @ their hospitals,their shock,disbelief,and laughter of just the thought of having patients waiting to be seen by a consultant.No idea if its still going on or not.
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Many may already know how much GP’s are stretched in the UK. They are having to work long hours and Weekends.
Some are on 12 hours shifts.
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Nil, I won’t comment on here, but I have an exhaustive knowledge of every benefit currently in use by the DWP. I also as worked alongside the NHS, mental Health teams, housing associations & charities & yes I know about food bank vouchers.
If you would like any clarification the Ed can give you my E-mail address , cheers mate._____________________________
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Reports of long queues at Polling Stations and predictions of a record turn out?
I voted this morning and it was quite busy but no long queues but it’s pouring with rain here in Sunny Somerset today.? and has been all day off and on.?
Re the NHS as Harry pointed out yesterday as well as all the other reasons pointed out by everyone re the problems with the NHS one of the biggest problems is underfunding.
I would be happy to pay some additional tax contribution provided it was isolated purely for the NHS I wonder how everyone else would feel about that?
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Who’d ya vote for? 🙂 🙂
But that’s the catch 22, cyber chum! I pay a lot more in taxes here in the Frozen North than I ever remember paying back in Blighty, but then again and as I mentioned earlier, everything “works” a hell of a lot better.
I’m sure the majority of us (in principle) wouldn’t mind paying a little bit more to get a better service, but that brings me straight back to the point of simply chucking money at something until works isn’t entirely the only solution out there.
On a professional level, I deal with a lot of tenders with a lot of governmental agencies all around the world, and I would imagine the NHS, being a governmental agency in the UK, has a very similar system, and I can tell you right now, the tender process that a lot of these agencies have is actually a complete rip-off, an utterly expensive way of doing things, and which the costs of which are ultimately passed on to the tax-payers of those respective countries.
Do any of you remember the scene in “Independence Day” where they’re talking about the Government paying 200 dollars for a hammer, 50 dollars for a pencil, etc… (can’t remember it word for word but it went something like that!)… that is far closer to the truth than I think many of you may have realized.
Just chucking more money at the NHS would simply mean NHS suppliers would simply put their prices up and would not even get close to the problems that it does have.
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Chucky, no I agree it would have to be much broader than just throwing extra money at the NHS.
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Difficult to compare Finland and the UK Chucky when population wise Finland is less than London.
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Pupstar, if 5 and whatever million in a country which has a land mass two and half times bigger than England can create a perfectly decent infrastructure and social services system, I find it incredibly hard to believe a country with over 10 times the population (and over ten times the amount of people paying taxes!) and the 5th biggest economy in the world can’t do so if it really wanted too.
Of course, the answer very well could be that everybody in England wants it, but no bugger wants to pay for it, which in my mind is more of a “won’t do it” excuse rather than a “can’t do it” excuse…
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FYI Mak asked me to delete his account so I did just that. Not interested in begging anyone to stay. Happy to have him back if he changes his mind.
Probably as good an indication as any that this kind of thread is best avoided. Sorry to be a killjoy but closing now for the sake of peace on the site.
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