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Having experienced ‘Merican hospitals, I will say they’re brilliant… if you can afford it!! But the minute you’re basically introducing “profit margins” into the equation for the NHS, then I can only think a combination of poorer service being provided along with it costing more in the long run due to one eye constantly looking at a balance sheet. Cannot see a single practical benefit to this idea.
Terrible idea all round, and should be taken to the back of the barn and shot.
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Remember Steve from California from the dark side,A.K.A Olgrendel?
$7000 for a dislocated shoulder,absolutely crazy and fascistic._____________________________
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Β£7k for a dislocated shoulder, bloody heβll thatβs expensive, how much would a good old kneecapping cost??….Pagan
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That USA for you,mate.
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I can beat that!!! Managed to fall down a flight of stairs, break both wrists, and a bit of face damage too (fractured eye socket/cheekbone, and lost a couple of teeth!) and when it was all said and done, the insurance company sent me a copy of the total bill (for my tax purposes!) and that lot came to 38k and change!! Like I said, brilliant service in the US… if you’ve got insurance and/or cash!
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I tell you the worrying thing…the choice
1. A coward, somebody who lies to the queen, somebody who makes racist comments,a philanderer
2. An anti-semitic, trot, living in the past
3. A head girl, too much arm waving
4. Nicola
5. One green, dont eat any meatHelp chaps..how should I vote with Pep not standing?
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Kylie-Have a brother in TexASS,and one of his kids required treatment which lasted 4 hrs= $15k.Madness!!
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Brian, all true. I’ve lost all faith since the Referendum Results and the Leave Vote not being honoured as it should. 3 years and still in waiting.
Question Time seems to be armed with almost the same ‘Panelists’, and there are a lot of angry and fed up people in those audience accompanied by those of “oh I didn’t know what I was voting for 3 years ago” and “now we have a better idea”.
It’s ridiculous and farcical. I’m hearing the same promises and clichΓ©s I heard from back in 1997 when Tony Blair came into Power.
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I would like to see βNone of the belowβ listed on the ballot – if that βpartyβ won the election, we would have to repeat the election until we found somebody suitable. That would be a much better solution in my opinion than proportional representation, which makes throwing out bad governments and politicians very difficult.
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Such good comments. Medical costs are high its just that they are masked by the “free at the point of delivery” NHS.
Here is a perpective:
One of my dogs has diabetes but we are coping well with insulin injections. However she has developed cataracts. Luckily I am insured for most. Cost……………………Β£4300. Same as if for a human. NHS, of course you dont pay. Just gives an idea of costs!_____________________________
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I think a bigger problem with the NHS is simple waste of time and resources, something which unfortunately affects organizations of that size. There should be a little bit more independence between districts/counties for starters. But it just seems to be an easy excuse for everybody to just say the want more money, rather than spend the money they have in a sensible manner.
A brilliant example would be the new hospital in Romford (actually, it’s not that new now!) but they “bought” a set of American plans/blueprints for one reason or another (probably thinking to save on architects or something) and then discovered AFTER they built it, the bloody beds are different sizes in the UK and they had to rebuild all the lifts in it at an extra cost of millions… cause all the lifts are in the middle of the building…
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Banjo, that sounds about right. If thereβs one line Iβm absolutely sick of hearing, itβs βlessons will be learned!β… you hear it nearly on a daily basis these days. Incompetence is rife now…
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Don’t forget Adders, my 38k included PROFIT for the hospitals… they’re not “non-profit” at all.
Sure I read somewhere that in the US, hospitals/insurance/medical industry, counts for roughly 20% of the entire countries GDP, and yet there’s still 10’s of millions of people in the US without any sort of insurance. Pretty sure it also said, per head, the US “spends” about 3 times as much as “per head” in the UK. As far as I’m concerned, the US model is basically a model on how not to do things…
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All this chat on here is making want to watch Brewsters Millions… π
“NONE OF THE ABOVE”
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I think we should all form a new party!
American and European medical care is in my experience very good if not somewhat over the top, but PROVIDED YOU CARRY V EXPENSIVE TOP NOTCH INSURANCE.
Some years ago following a skiing accident I had private dental care in Austria. They had to fix a screw in post and crown. Total time about an hour….cost about 15 years ago nearly Β£400.15 years ago. Insurance paid._____________________________
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On the off chance last week at work, a Customer I came into conversation with mentioned how the Hospitals in Spain are different to the Uk. The whole concept of it. The way she described it was en-suite in terms of beds and overall facilitation.
Availability of Doctors/Nurses and good care. She’s originally a Brit and had lived in Spain for 20 years.
As far as Public Services in the Uk go. it all comes down to investment leading to expansion. Since 1997, I’ve heard the same propositions, but no since of true enrichment. The only significance in Population increase and Mass Immigration.
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Our health and social services have been underfunded for years.
One of my daughters is a dietician in the main hospital in Cardiff. The stories she tells that relate to underfunding is frightening. Not enough doctors, nurses support staff and many from the EU going home. She has to cover two EU people who have gone back home due to brexit. The genius of Johnson._____________________________
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Nil, Lot of private healthcare in Spain.
“Growing numbers of people are taking out private health insurance in Spain. The figure has grown by over one million since 2013, after the government made cuts to public healthcare at the height of the economic crisis.
Today, one in every five households has private health insurance, at an annual average cost of β¬1,186, according to data from the National Statistics Institute (INE). The sector experienced a growth rate of 5.6% in 2018.”
Adlab Wales is behind England on every element of healthcare and it comes under a Labour led Parliament.
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Unfortunately I’ve needed the NHS consistently since 2013 and tbh I can’t speak highly enough of it.
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The biggest problem the NHS has is the management of the whole system, the employment of Quango’s and an inept structure to support the reason for being there…i.e. to look after the sick. Agree with Chuky and money will never be enough, that is just the politicians game. They have to work better and smarter with the money, which what any other organisation has to do large or small The ratio between the Patient and the Service is astronomical. Our local health practise is installing a new OS to there computer system….it is absolute chaos and why did they not keep the old one running and break in the new one over a period instead of doing, or trying to do it in one go. Again, are we been sold a “pup”?
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