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I don’t think Ronaldo will start vs Arsenal Lucky. We’ll get space in behind Arsenal so we’ll need pace I think. I think Ronaldo will be more useful against a low block where we need a physical presence so we can switch things up.
Lucky, if Tuchel does go, would you like me to delete that long article you did slating Poch? π. On a serious note, do you think he’d be a contender? I’m not sure who else there is. Maybe you could tempt someone like Potter but that’s a gamble to take such a step up with no time to get to know the squad before games are coming thick and fast. What’s Hiddink doing these days?!
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Yes and yes Ed π
Been having visions of poch taking over for the last week
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Interesting to see if ten gaff keeps the tactic of going a goal up and sitting back. Thought utd would keep the ball a lot more under him. Only 5 games but has there been any change in how they play? Itβs terrible to watch. That was a terrible game last night and so was sat
Still itβs only 5 games and maybe Iβm being to critical. Leicester are in serious trouble. Abysmal
Lucky, sancho has been one of the most disappointing signings after lackau in the last 15 months. He saunters around. Letβs see how he gets on with ten haggard mate but 70+ and heβs been shocking
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Poncho to… to… them? Shouldn’t think so… π
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Sean you need to be able to walk before you can run mate.
Defensively utd look completely different side they are compact, organised and playing out from the back really well.
Will take more time for it to click going forward and probably another summer window us needed too.
Sure ETH is being very pragmatic right now but that is to his credit imo.
Regards sancho he has been awful but so as everyone else at old Trafford since he signed. Early signs under ETH are that we will see a better sancho now.
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Ed, if Pochettino was available and Tuchel had gone I’m sure Poch would feature in Chelsea’s thoughts but given the rivalry between Chelsea and Spurs it might be difficult for him to go there?
I’m pretty sure Tuchel will be given to the end of season at least and won’t be judged until then and a couple weeks ago there was talk of an extended contract being discussed talk of Tuchel being under pressure for his job after just 5 games are premature imo.
Guus is 75 now and retired from managing.Top Man though and much loved at Chelsea.
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That’s it Lucky. I said at the start of the season anyone thinking Utd would suddenly start playing Ajax style total football this season is in for a surprise. After those first two games, building a solid defensive base is most important for now and that’s exactly what he has done. Ajax conceded 19 goals last season. Next lowest was 34. He knows how to build a side who are difficult to score against.
Agree about Sancho too. He’s been poor. Unrecognisable from his time at Dortmund but needs to be given a new chance now under Ten Hag. Transitioning from a counter attacking side into one who want to control games is a big change and requires the right personnel.
Still itβs only 5 games and maybe Iβm being to critical. Leicester are in serious trouble. Abysmal
That’s it Sean, it’s 5 games. Look at Arsenal who were awful under Arteta. Parking the bus under him many a time. Still early days there but you can see the improvement already. You can’t judge a complete overhaul of playing style after 5 games.
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Nine, I don’t think Guus has retired yet. Transfermarkt have him down as Australia’s assistant.
Ed, if Pochettino was available and Tuchel had gone Iβm sure Poch would feature in Chelseaβs thoughts but given the rivalry between Chelsea and Spurs it might be difficult for him to go there?
Is it such a big rivalry? Conte, Mourinho, AVB have all managed both in recent years. I don’t see why Poch going there would cause any problems.
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I’m slightly at a loss having read Brendan’s comments on not being able to bring players in. Apparently, this is something to do with the club having to align themselves with FFP. So what about the sale on Maguire and now Forfana? I’m sure they have more money in the kitty too. I don’t think they are a club short of a few bob.
One article from the BBC on club spending:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62758471
On the game itself, Dewsbury-Hall played very well as with Maddison too. Maybe Iheanacho and or Daka should have started to partner Vardy or Vardy should have been used as a sub. I think Leicester do miss an industrious type of a midfielder and somebody that will exert some authority that would spurn the other players. Plus of course a commanding center half. Whether it is the reasoning of the fair play rules or not, the owners need to really allow signings. We also don’t know when Bertrand will recover.
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Nil, as I said the other day the owners Duty Free business has been badly hit by COVID and a lack of people flying.
Leicester are not cash rich but the reverse the Harry Maguire money went on building the new training ground and the Fofana money Β£20m was used for signing his replacement and Leicester owe money to St Etienne for Forfana.
The owners put an article in last night’s programme to explain the Club’s financial situation.
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Ed, “On 9 September 2021, Hiddink officially stepped down as head coach of CuraΓ§ao and announced his managerial retirement at the age of 74.”
Either way at 75 now I don’t think it would be wise for Guus to get in the cut and thrust of PL football again.
Given your examples you may be right tbh I don’t think anything will happen this season and Poch has to be available if and when Tuchel was to leave Chelsea but results are all defining so we’ll see.
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P.S. Nine, I’m sure you’re right and that Tuchel isn’t in any danger of losing his job for now. That CL win surely buys him a lot of time he otherwise wouldn’t have got.
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Cheers 9. I believe you’re right on those points and facts.
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Ed, I think it’s the change of ownership as well as the CL victory that has kept tuchel in his job. Imo roman would have fired him but I wouldn’t have wanted that.
He has seemingly had a lot of say in who comes in so for me we need to give him the whole season to work with his squad. Would be silly to build him a squad but not let him have the time to make best of it.
That he has had such backing though will certainly work against him if we don’t improve considerably and that’s where the pressure is for him. Only time will tell if he can handle it ,but time I would give him for sure.
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Definitely Lucky. We also have no idea how ruthless this Boehly guy is. Roman was as ruthless as they come but Boehly might be more patient, rightly or wrongly.
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Very valid points Ed!
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I don’t think you don’t need *that* long or a load of windows to see if a manager’s really got it or not. Klopp got a poor/average Liverpool team to two finals in his first part season in charge. Tuchel won a CL in his first season. Arteta won the FA Cup in his first season. In most cases, these managers quickly galvanized their dressing rooms and completely changed the dynamic. It’s all well and good to think it’s acceptable for Ten Hag to make steady progress over a couple of seasons, but I think you need to see more than that. Winners get results relatively quickly.
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Post of Today Mikus, 300% agreement.
Look at those players Klopp inherited and got a tune out of; Lovren, Emre Can, Lallana.
That come back in 2016 against Dortmund in the Semi’s when Marco Reus was flying. Sakho might have stayed on had he reigned in his attitude, but yeah, a manager to a large degree in the first place has to have something about him. I think TH won’t take any crap off players and I believe he has the support and wealth of experience from McClaren.
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Cups are always a difficult barometer of success Mikus. League position is a much more reliable barometer. Cups can be so hit and miss, as seen by someone like Pep not having won the CL since his Barca days. Klopp, for instance, finished 8th then 4th twice. With a side who were second and came so close to winning the league only a year previously.
I think it depends also on what the job entails. Ten Hag, in particular, has been brought in to completely overhaul a failing squad and completely change the way they play. Obviously he’s going to be allowed more time than, for example, if Pep was suddenly replaced tomorrow with a similar style of manager.
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I donβt think you donβt need *that* long or a load of windows to see if a managerβs really got it or not.
Besides, I don’t think people are saying he needs 2 years or whatever for us to see if he’s up to it. I think people are saying it will likely take that long if he is, indeed, going to start competing regularly for trophies and playing exactly how he would like. We’ll know way before then whether or not we’re on the right path. You see indications along the way which give you the courage to stick with a manager, despite a lack of success, just as Liverpool did with Klopp and Utd did with Ferguson.
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