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City have averaged 99 points over two seasons if they take that kind of form and points total into next Season nobody will catch them imo.
As long as Pep remains at City they will be dominant although chasing the elusive CL might open the door slightly.
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There was a point about ‘a New Team winning it‘ or just a different team for the sake of the Premier League being dominated over a Decade by just one team.
Obviously, if it’s your supporting team, the only thing you’ll notice is just more Glory and Champagne.
I’ve made this point about a different team winning it and not being dominated by just one team, it’s been counter-acted by Liverpool dominating in the 80s, so took all this to a bit of study and research and I found this:
Going by each Decade:
1980s – Liverpool – Aston Villa, Everton, Arsenal; a breakdown of 7-1-1-1
1990s – Manchester United – Arsenal, Leeds United, Blackburn Rovers; a breakdown of 7-1-1-1
2000s – Manchester United – Arsenal, Chelsea; a breakdown of 6-2-2
2010s – Manchester City – Manchester United, Chelsea, Leicester City; a breakdown of 4-2-2-1
If we bring in the definition of Dominance, then surely that’s going to mean 1 team greater than others. These facts/stats over a 40 period reflect on the possibility of ‘one hit wonders’ or at best, those teams that have won the PL but are least dominant.
I learned just as a side point since 1892 to date, Liverpool have been Runners Up 14 times. Not that it matters.
Not that I have come across as much, but for any criticism shown towards apart from the norm of 29 years, I would question right now, name any other club out there that is capable of breaking down Man City’s dominance going by the argument of wanting a different/new team to win it???
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This is something from a Team sport and Football and Cricket are the only ones I’ve ever followed and have known. Would need to research more into Cricket, but always thought off the top of my head growing up, England were there, but there was also West Indies and Australia.
Individuals Sports as far as they go:
Tennis: In most recent times, it’s been about Roger Federer. Only Novak Djokovic, Rafa Nadal and Andy Murray have broken Federer.
Snooker: 80s it was Steve Davis, 90s it was Stephen Hendry, 00s and 10s a mixed bag mainly dominated by O’Sullivan, Higgins and Mark Selby.
Unless, it’s YOUR own PRERERRED TEAM/INDIVIDUAL SPORTSPERSON, then this all shows, we’re stuck with DOMINANCE.
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Nil, you’ve done us out of a title mate we’ve won it 5 times since 2005 3 times in 2010,2015,2017. 🙂
Personally if Chelsea can’t win the title I don’t really care who wins the title although I prefer a close race like this seasons.
I think if Poch is given some reasonable funds in the Summer it could be a 3 horse race next season.
But catching City by anyone will probably depend on the transfer market I think if he’s allowed to Pep will make 2/3 astute buys in the Summer its what the chasing pack can do in the transfer window which might decide who can keep pace with them. Without Chelsea can trade in the Summer window that rules us out.
Next Season providing Spurs spend some money I think they will be challengers and it will probably be a 3 horse race for the title and I think the best chance of getting above City is if they get distracted by trying to win the CL.
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ps I don’t think anyone anywhere has been critical of Liverpool they gave it their best shot and couldn’t have come closer but its very difficult to compete with a 14 game winning run that’s what won it for City.
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“your squad is simply to big for anyone to compete with. ”
We did compete with them.
” We will never see LFC only lose 1 game in a season again ”
This is probably true. we did ride our luck sometimes and I was honestly delighted to hear Klopp list off at least 3 of the games where we rode our luck. This was in his post match discussion.That is next level humble.
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Nine it’s no coincidence the winning run for city came in the 2nd half of the season. Remember when LFC were top by 7 or whatever it was, people (you were one of them) saying Liverpool would win it. I said it wasn’t even half way through the season & city had far better depth than anyone & I still thought they’d win it. I got hammered, called negative whatever (doesn’t bother me 1 iota, I always say what I honestly think) yet some are now admitting squad depth was the main factor in their win. I said when you’ve got Sane & Jesus coming off the bench you’ve got it pretty good. It only took a few games where we were off & couldn’t get a win that they overtook us & it was game over.
Your on the money re next season, pep only has to buy a couple of top quality players, which he will, and they will remain at the top. No one can better them over a season & wont in the next couple at least. We won’t go a season losing only 1 again that’s for sure.
Pep has done well to mould the side but I don’t get the love affair with him some have, Leicester winning the EPL is an amazing feat, as is spurs getting to the C/L final (hopefully they won’t win it) but most expected city to win the title, the shock factor was it took till the last day to do it. Pep’s got more resources than an other manager could dream of so you’d expect him to go well.
Anyway my obvious tip is another city EPL next season.
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“That reflected on our front 3 not always firing on all cylinders and the reliance on Van Dijk (largely) and Allison.”
I don’t think we’re reliant on any one player anymore. Obviously missing Van Dijk would still be MASSIVE. he didn’t get PFA player of the year for nothing/.He’s a truly incredible player BUT… We have Gomez on the bench now, who for me is much better than I think people realize yet. He can’t get back into the team because Matip has been brilliant in his absence. Seriously.. Matip is our most improved player of the season. He vanished for a year or so, in terms of quality… but wow is he back.
So we have 3 TOP centre backs right now. I think all 3 get into pretty much every team in the PL, individually. I know most will disagree with this and that’s ok, it’s just an opinion and I do have strong ones with regards to some players.
as for departments though, we have quality all over. If the attack is only ok, the defence makes up for it. This is how we managed to get a title challenge together but it’s not an over-reliance. We had 2 players tied for golden boot, so they werent carried by anyone, overall. It’s just the sign of a great team when others can pick up the slack and this is what we have.
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Oz, City barely beat us to the title. You’re talking as if they were 10 points ahead. You say that nobody can compete with them , except we did. Could it have helped our cause to have more squad depth, absolutely. was it THE reason we didnt do it? I dunno but if you want to make this claim then can you look at the games we lost and tell me where more depth would have helped? Cause all I see is one slightly better performance and we have beaten this apparently unbeatable side…
You were ultimately right in that we didnt win the league but you’re still wrong in my opinion. You have talked about the title like it was over long ago. You are talking as if we couldnt possibly have won it, when as a matter of fact, it was the exact opposite. We very nearly did. In fact, you dont get closer than this.
There is being a realist and then there is overt pessimism. I’m not knocking you. I am trying to find a way to ,call you out on this without leaving any kind of offensive reading text. I don;t want problems or arguments but man, I just can not agree with your line of thinking here at all.
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Thanks to all the City and neutral lads for not rubbing our faces in it. I think the usual shite talk from others is on hold until after we potentially lose the CL final. Kinda hard to call someone a failure as they await to find out if they can become European Champions.
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Historically as Stats/Facts show over the last 40 years, one Team is likely to dominate over a decade.
Totally right Nine mate, I missed 2010. 4 to 3 so actually, that’s close along with United’s 2 and Leicester’s 1. This particular decade complete.
Next year we go into a new one. Weirdly, we’re feeling Man City as they have shown to be a Powerhouse and others around have fallen short and have ground to make up. Tottenham are Tottenham. Of course it’s squad depth, but for what Liverpool have as a package, we proved and shown to others and ourselves that we pushed Man City all the way.
The fact that today, live that Brighton lead only lasted 60 seconds just encapsulates everything what Man City are about. Finance and spending power doesn’t bother me right now. We can work on our squad depth.
Every fan is different in how they think, but given that we narrowly missed out today, how can anybody sort of declare already that it’s City’s PL Title Next Season. I just don’t get that. I might have thought different if we finishing 20 or so points behind, like last season. That fact is we’ve bridged the gap.
A couple of high quality signings and who knows. This is a whole new level and different to 2014.
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Mak, you don’t offend me bro, I get you don’t agree but I made my points. Yes we pushed them all the way but this is exactly what I meant by so close yet so far away, they might as well have won it by 10 points, it’s the same result. I asked a while ago who was more likely to drop points & no one said they were more likely. Could they have, hell yeah but at the end of the day they didn’t & we looked more likely to. Once again won the title. More depth would e helped in the draws mate, you know where Salah & co were off & we needed a winning goal, city had sane & Jesus as attacking players on the bench in the last game where they had to win, we have Sturridge & Shaq, massive difference in quality when looking for a goal. They bring off KDB & bring on Fernandinho, that’s the difference in depth I’m talking about.
We will not go another season losing only 1 game, I reckon I could guarantee that. I’ve no doubt they will strengthen again with more world class talent. Yeah we might as well but the likelihood of us repeating 97 points again is Buckley’s & zero. They’ve got this many twice in a row & they will again. It’s very predictable IMO & I know it’s not a popular opinion but it’s how I see it. I don’t get upset it’s just how sport is, the biggest spenders win the prizes. Sport is business now & is why I don’t invest too much time & energy into it. Good luck to the city lads, they’re good lads, they’ll once again say it could be different next season as they don’t want to appear arrogant but I think deep down they know their squad is better than anyone else & it’ll stay that way. All good mate, maybe you’ll be right & “next year” will be our year haha._____________________________
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Nil, I predicted they’ll win it again, for the same reasons I did when we were 7 points ahead half way through the season. Over the course of a season depth counts & they have more than anyone else. Pretty simple way of looking at it but it’s how I see it. Haven’t been too far off the mark the last 2 seasons with that theory. Good luck to em.
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Nil As I said to Mak we won’t get that many points again but I can definitely see them getting very close to 100 for the 3rd season on a row.
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The city lads on here are good lads, good luck to them.
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Congratulations to City and the world’s greatest ever manager. Tough luck for Liverpool but can’t see Spurs beating them in the CL so they should at least have that big one.
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Great finish to a great season, PL won on the last day, all up up for 3rd/4th, 3 joint winners of the Golden Boot (all Africans) ans the most PL goals scored ever….4 british teams in 2 Euro finals…great days
my best of the day esterday was Tony Adams on BT sport…..lots of talk about other teams going close and losing in the PL, Arsenal also only lost 1 game and didnt win…..
when asked Tony Adams said…Yeah but i was in Chelmsford Nick that game we lost so it wasnt my fault, in fact i was an “invincible”….it was very funny 🙂
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Tony Adams was a great laugh on soccer am a few weeks ago Stevo
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Nil, “how can anybody sort of declare already that it’s City’s PL Title Next Season. I just don’t get that.” Not me mate if you re read my post I predicted a 3 horse race next Season between City, Liverpool and Spurs although I think it will still be tough for anyone to finish above this City side currently in the PL without City get distracted by the CL in the latter stages.
You’re right though Liverpool did close the gap on City and did run them incredibly close but that was done by signing Van Dijk, Alison, Keita and Fabinho for circa £250m partly funded by the Coutinho money and I’m not sure we’ll see that level of spend again or the signings of players of the statute of Van Dijk and Alison which were game changers for Liverpool I also think that City will be more active this Summer than they were last if they are allowed to be.
As Oz has pointed out the big difference is squad depth v City, Spurs have the same problem and it will take the chasing Clubs a while to put that right. I think Liverpool still lack a bit of creativity in midfield and if they can put that right this Summer that will help.
I agree with you I don’t think anyone can predict that City will win the title next season lots of water to flow under the bridge yet starting with the Summer transfer window and injuries can play a big part too and I think City missing probably their best player in KDB for a large slice of this season hampered them despite the size of their squad and City probably need to find a better back up to Fernandinho this Summer too than they currently have.
When the odds for next Season’s title race are out I think it will show City as favourites followed by Liverpool and Spurs and I think that’s probably about right but that doesn’t mean City have already won the 2019/20 title. Keep dreaming buddie that’s what being a football fan is all about. Cheers 999
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