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I canβt see him being at Man U much longer, general consensus seems to be that this is Man Cities time in the sun, Jose has a choice and that is try and topple Man City or move to another league where he can be the big fish.
Difficult decision for Jose, stay and play second fiddle, or move and be successful again, but be accused or running, either way the ego takes a bit of a bashing….Pagan
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You canβt criticize players like Jose does. He did that with Chelsea in his 2nd spell and lost the dressing room
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Pretty much bang on the money Pagan.Two of my best mates are season ticket
holders at Old Trafford (since 84) Both thought the same as Keown did yesterday,
(after the Brighton home game.Then again after Leics away)One of them even likened him to the Football equivalent of Donald Trump.
Which made me lol πImho Keown has every right to say what he did.That’s what he’s paid to do.
HNY to all on here π
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The ED has a very good point. Fergusson ruled OT with an iron fist any dissent and a player was out. Not sure even Mouriniho has that clout. Any player at OT these days could throw their rattle out of their pram and walk into another massively well paid job. But I supose that’s true of all PL players.
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Jose toppled arguably the best side ever containing arguably the best player of all time, scoring the most goals of all time in La Liga in the process. Whilst we currently look some way off, if there’s a manager more capable of getting us back on track, I’ve yet to see him. Let’s not forget the amount of criticism Pep faced last season, even from the City fans. His biggest fans were saying he doesn’t have the quality of players to play his way.
My point with Jose having previously lost dressing rooms is that those players knew they could force him out. The players need to know they don’t have that power, just as they didn’t in the Ferguson days. As soon as they realise Mourinho has the full support of the board regardless, the sooner they decide whether to pull their socks up and get back to the football we were playing at the beginning of the season or join another club.
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Jim, agree with you there about motivation. Lakaku it was reported was complaining about tiredness, but that could be a separate matter.
Mkhitaryan for example is a much better than that wasted cross-field ball played early doors yesterday when that really should have been 1-0.
I know Jose is being criticised but in fairness to him, there’s a lot of injuries at the moment and a lot of key players missing.
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Fergie ruled with an iron rod, until Rooney held united to ransom over money and they caved, until then Man U didnβt really have the player power problems as up until then, you rocked the boat, you were history…Pagan
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Pagan, I don’t disagree that Rooney played the club to get a huge pay rise but rest assured that had Ferguson wanted Rooney out, he would have been gone. Ferguson clearly knew he needed Rooney and authorised his pay rise. Ferguson’s power at the club wasn’t brought into question with the Rooney saga. It’s that power Jose needs IMO
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Pagan, in all fairness to a great extent, a different culture has emerged over the last decade. You are dealing with multi-million pound players and even bigger egos. You shout at a player now and he’s straight away onto his agent.
Maybe in that respect, Fergie’s time was up in relation to his old skool way of man-management.
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Great points by the Ed in his post @10:49am.
All Managers can fall out with players Pep fell out with Ibrahimovic at Barca and had to sell him.
Plenty of the players that Mourinho managed speak glowingly of him so I don’t buy all this he can’t Coach and players don’t like him. When things are going wrong at any club there’s always unhappy players and an unhappy Manager.
You don’t win multiple League titles in 4 different countries if you can’t manage and inspire
players.Jose’s biggest problems are that he has the capacity to be a prize plum and a complete Arsenal at times he grates with the opposition fans and preaches to the media all of which has turned him into a bit of a pantomime villain. Plus he has “the noisy neighbours” ripping up the PL
If the majority of the regular match going fans turn against him though then he could be in trouble but I’m not sure that’s the case of yet.
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9, I donβt think anyone can disagree Jose is a fantastic coach, itβs the managerial side that is always questioned, and that is the side that seems to see him move on at regular intervals…Pagan
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Pagan, he’s definitely got a self destruct button. Time will be his judge.
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I’m in the camp that believes Mourinho needs time to be given inorder to complete this rebuilding job. However Mourinho needs to take his job seriously and concentrate at United than what happens at City or Chelsea. Because focusing his job is one step in the right direction. At the moment he is too distracted at what Guardiola is doing at City, how much Guardiola pays for his players, Antonio Conte style of play, Wenger’s PL trophy drought, how much Klopp paid for Van Dijk. And so on. Sooner he focuses his team deficiencies the better for his career at United. There is no question in his talent as a manager. But his sideshows are becoming too much.
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CMan, to be fair on the Van Dijk situation Mourinho was asked the question in a press conference and Klopp did say last season he would rather give up football than pay the sort of enormous fees United were paying.
Mourinho’s biggest problem is Pep and City across the road running away with the PL and they have a history too.
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Zero-zero at half-time and Palace you have to say have given a good account of themselves containing City.
It’s City’s turn to attack the Sainsburys end – could there be a different turn of events?
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To be honest i’m not paying anyslight attention about the result. I’m only watching the football and nothing morethan. City is likely to win.
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Even if City were to drop 2 points or even a very unlikely 3 points both Chelsea and United would still be 14 and 15 points away respectively.
It would mean nothing tbh other than City could do with extending their lead in order to rest players either side of their CL games which they’ve got a real chance of winning imo too.
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999-Do not know about Chelsea mate but United does not deserve even CL place the way they are playing the last couple of months.
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maverick, if they don’t pull their socks up mate United won’t be in the CL next season.
But football fortunes turn quickly and United could easily go on a winning run any time soon.
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Well well! Wonders will never cease. Full kudos to Roy Hodgson and his Eagles, did have a slight incline about this game beforehand, but then I thought City will get over the finishing line and as it turned out, they were held.
The chasing pack in Chelsea are the beneficiaries with City’s lead trimmed to 14 points. I was thinking the other day that 6 or 7 wins should do it for the League Title, but not quite sure now.
Brilliant for the sake of spicing things up if there were more results like this. I’m sure along the way, there will be more twists.
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