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Lots of vitriol read elsewhere online on various mediums. Surprise surprise. Wolves fans making a mockery on the pitch after Man City finding their way.
At least over the last few years, we’ve made a contest of this. Otherwise (non City fans), you want your wish, it’ll be a league with total City dominance. Is that what you want? Name me a team that’s challenged City scoring over 90 points? Exactly!
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Howe had a very difficult job and it’s amazing how he pulled Newcastle out the quagmire.
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Some of these games and I am not pointing fingers specifically at anyone but they do remind me of a game I played at amateur level, last game of the season and we needed a draw to avoid relegation and we were playing the top side who already won the league. At half time they were deservedly up 2-0, then with 10 minutes left they just stood still and allowed us to run through and score 2 goals.
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Think we will see if gerrard has the balls for the job as he needs to get rid of his captain mings. Makes far to many mistakes
They have some really good players there but can’t defend. Needs a top 8 finish as kamara a big coup and twaroski in the pipeline
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Pep manager of the year. Howe had sone a great job but expectations be much higher next season
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I suspect John Terry leaving Villa correlates somewhat with their poorer defensive record this season.
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Bit sceptic about these accolades. I agree on one hand about recognition shown for achievements. I think the Brentford Manager should get a mention for sure. Eddie Howe I agree with. Looks like the seeds are slowly being planted since Ashley left and the club has changed ownership.
I question with Pep in what he inherited and did he really need to put in a great deal to achieve when he has financial backing and essentially, spending power to what ever he chooses? I give him the recognition he deserves on the other hand for consistently delivering Titles more than one. I am contradicting myself.
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For transparency, I couldn’t care less who wins manager of the year. I was taking umbrage with the inconsistencies in a certain pundits views on what qualifies for the award, as he seemed to be hyper critical of Klopp, and completely downplayed the achievements of Liverpool this season.
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For me, Pep apart, manager of the year is Howe. He achieved a small miracle.
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Nike…Pep inherited a good team but not a great team. Half the team moved on.The buys were mostly good value, a few mistakes but, hey-ho, where is Mr Perfect?
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Liverpool have proved my point, they are a great team with a good pragmatic manager who did not have the spending power of City, but that did not matter, it was the management and skill level of the 11 on the pitch that put them there. SO, why did other teams not follow that and make it more competitive? It is not always about money, after all City and Liverpool could only put out 22players, nobody can convince me there were not hundreds of players, skilful, that need a plan and purpose Plus some teams had plenty of money and chose not to spend or spend poorly. That is not the fault of City or Liverpool. It could also be pointed out that Liverpool have bought some brilliant players at a good price, City have wasted money on some poor players and that negates itself on the pitch where it matters. I think the only difference between Liverpool and City is that City always take the risk, does not always pay off whereby Liverpool, more like there Manager take a Pragmatic approach with there Press game. Both have merits, both have faults, whatever…it made for an exciting finale. I do not want the EPL to be dominated by any one team, be it City, Liverpool or anybody else and I would like to see the Sheffield clubs back, Sunderland and others
The new Utd manager makes an interesting comment saying,,,the end of an era…targeting Pep and Jurgen. but he fails to say how he is going to do it. There are good managers in the League, a League different to what his experience is based on, so we will have to see how that develops.He has to be given time and benefit of time but they need to get off to a flyer next season. or……
I do fear the game will change though and it will not be in the fans interest. TV have run there format now, proofed a point to themselves and they will make further changes. Fifa/Uefa, FA are all inept to do much about it either_____________________________
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Good post brown but I disagree about Klopp being pragmatic. We take massive risks and are hugely brave as we play so high and we often leave it two on two at the back
I think both teams play different football but both are exciting. I love watching us play as we will go anywhere and attack
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Nil, great call on Thomas Franck. Brentford have been unreal. Howe has had big money to spend but night very wisely. Dan burn was a bargain and the Brazilian lad they signed from Lyon is top notch
I’d actually bet on Brentford to go down next season with second season syndrome like she’d utd etc in the past
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Brian, what makes City very strong is their self belief in their philosophy. No matter what is happening in a game, whether they’re losing or winning, they are very good at maintaining their flow and their game. It sort of reminds of Wenger’s Arsenal – even in his latter days, Arsenal were still very good at maintaining their philosophy in a game and games like the 4-4 at Anfield – where they just kept playing their game no matter what and it was very effective stick in the memory. Where the difference is between us and City is we are more of warrior like with big heart in every game. Both sides are outstanding but in the league you need more of that relentless consistency to go to win games, in the CL you need more heart and fight. Hence City tend to be stronger in the league, we tend to be stronger in the CL. But given the tiny margins here, we are taking very very fine details as both could easily have ended up winning both the league & CL.
But what we can perhaps try and draw out from all this, to beat City in the league, is we do need better decision making in the box. Gary Neville said some months ago about how dangerous we were having those 5 strikers and it maybe gave us the edge. But actually, whilst it would be mad to criticise our strikers, we do need less selfishness at times – and this is where City, without strikers, have actually done better as they are arguably better and more selfless in the box. We really missed Bobby in those last games because he was that selfless body in the box with very good decision making setting up chances. (Salah actually irritated me in the Spurs game as he just kept going for glory when another pass would have set someone else up in more space).
City don’t need Haaland in the league – that much is now clear. He’s been signed most probably to get them the CL, where you sometimes do need that rabbit out the hat moment. Whereas we need to get more leagues, so probably need to look more at a Bobby replacement than another striker, a better decision maker in the box to help set up more chances. Can Carvalho be that man? He’ll have to be very good very quickly if he is.
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Brian, I agree with your sentiments regarding the spending. I think sometimes people are dismissive or overlook the point of making these individuals gel into the team and coach them, both technically and mentally.
Pep is quality I never dispute that. Maybe I or we as fans might have taken City’s Title win for granted and a ‘given’ from the start because of what’s already been achieved consistently so far.
The other teams in my eyes are not up to those levels largely because of the lack of continuity that’s compounded by Managerial changes and player; more in frequency so this breaks the mold. It’s an interesting correlation of this observation to the example of Tottenham and Son and Kane from how long they’ve played together and the value they add to their respective Team.
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Nike, Mikus and Sean…we all agree on one thing…there is not much difference between the teams.
I could not disagree with any of your comments, we all have our views but in this case the difference is small. No doubt we shall all be at it again next season. This season has gone now, history, to me, history is nice but no value for the future and will not win the next matchI do hope you guys beat RM, that club is morally bankrupt with all the statements it makes and still trying for Super league, but UEFA will not do anything about it But I want you to win by just being a team from the England and particularly the North west
Mikus that was an interesting comment about “self belief” it is important but you need every player tuned in to it and when they are, it is wonderful to watch, If 1/2 switch off the game plan has gone.
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Sean, maybe pragmatic was the wrong term but Liverpools style is more organised because you have three strikers, We have a plan and I think it is whoever has the ball make sure they do not loose it and when you can, ANYBODY, shoot at goal!!! Well it has worked for two seasons now and we have plundered a lot of goals without a striker but Pep knows he will need another game plan for next season, hence a striker. I do not know if Haarland will be good for us or not but he is young and athletic and gives us some muscle in the box, which we do not have. I do like your Diaz though, think he will have a good season to come. he is the one player from your team I would like in City team,
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I do think Klopp is an incredible manager, but I am very confused how the Barclay’s Premier League Manager of the Year award can go to him? He finished second with a team that was expected to finish in the top 3. That is his only LEAGUE achievement, the cups and European achievements are irrelevant for this award
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Ye valid point foxy. Funny think was a lot of people write Liverpool off this season after last year. To be even competing with city is a minor miracle but I get you. It’s a pl award and I think pep should have got it
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Foxy – Yeah you’re right. Klopp should have never been in contention. Its baffling. Quite an ordinary season for Liverpool. Going by your logic though, Man City were expected to win the league, so it can’t be Pep winning it. Which leaves Howe and Conte in your opinion 🤣
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