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  • #7476
    Hightown hope
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      Is it me or is Dier overrated? Strolls around a lot trying to look in control but, I don’t know. Chucky, as a Spud, what’s your opinion on him?

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      #7477
      Big Jim
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        We don’t seem to have anything about us in midfield. Vardy and Rashford so isolated.

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        #7478
        Big Jim
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          Rest our players Southgate!!!! Not bloody Vardy.

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          #7479
          Nike19
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            Solanke is finally on – YES!!!!!

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            #7480
            nine nine nine
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              No creativity at all in midfield Jim.

              Gomez has looked quite promising on the right of a back three.

              We’ll be alright now though with two “Made in Chelsea’s ” up top.?

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              #7481
              Nike19
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                We simply have Parked The Bus!!!!!

                Never mind Brazil frustrated, I’m ruddy well frustrated!!!!!

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                #7482
                Nike19
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                  Hahaha, wowzers: how come Joe Hart turn out to be good in this particular game lol 😀 hehehe 🙂

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                  #7483
                  Big Jim
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                    Defensively we look solid. Shame about Ireland.

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                    #7484
                    Big Jim
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                      Well to me that game just shows how much England miss Ali and Sterling in midfield. They are the only two players that can either make a telling pass or make a run through the middle. We will go out in the group stages again playing like that.

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                      #7485
                      nine nine nine
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                        We’ve played the top two ranked sides in the world with a reduced squad and have remained unbeaten. Defensively as Jim says we’ve looked good and we were better offensively v Germany than we were tonight.

                        I’m sure this international break has been helpful to Southgate obviously we’re not going to win the W.Cup but we could get out of the Group stages and maybe even make the Qtr Finals I hope Southgate sticks with the younger players going forwards.

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                        #7486
                        Nike19
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                          A friendly, and the point of experiment, but nothing shun from any of the 2 games from England. No ambition.

                          The argument naturally be raised of the opposition and quality, but it should be DNA to just go for it an give it your all. I seen that largely and only in Marcus Rashford up the top.

                          Southgate my friend: You played under Venables, but by no means you are BORING!!!!! Dull and Boring and one to stifle good football and simply park the bus!!!!!!!!!!!

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                          #7488
                          Nike19
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                            #7490
                            Big Jim
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                              Who would you drop if you stick with the younger players nine. Clearly you can’t drop Kane. IMO Sterling is having a cracking season as is Delph. The latter definitely got a knock in the last few minutes of our game vs Arsenal. Not sure about Sterling. Alli has to go surely ?
                              Llanana ( I forgot about him earlier) if fit offers more in midfield than Henderson and Dier. Winks and RLC do they go? It’s not easy is it?

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                              #7491
                              nine nine nine
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                                I think Giggs made a good point about Wilshere I know he’s had a terrible injury record and is struggling for starts at Arsenal but we haven’t got anyone as good as him on the ball that can play as a two in a pivot who can hold and use the ball as well as Wilshere.

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                                #7492
                                Nike19
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                                  I’m highly tempted to start another thread because quite simply, I’ve been robbed in being time-wasted. I know about youngsters tested, but this was during experienced players on the circuit like Bryan Robson and Gary Lineker.

                                  This is sheer bullshit. I don’t normally swear or like to swear, but this it bullshit.

                                  I hate the Bus parked and running down the clock with only at best one guy willing to give his all. Nonsensical, and I’m being too nice to declare just being insulted point blank.

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                                  #7494
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Jim, I think Defoe and Sturridge might be under pressure Henderson too perhaps even Lallana I would currently take Winks,Loftus Cheek and Gomez I would definitely take Sterling.

                                    I think Southgate will go with some of the young players we’re not going to win the World Cup anyway so let’s try and build something that might take us a bit further in the next Euros and World Cup.

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                                    #7495
                                    Big Jim
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                                      Wilshire, Not for me nine. I have never seen what others see in him when he is fit. He doesn’t have the vision. Sure he tries but all too often he just loses the ball or runs down dead ends. Plus he can’t score goals.

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                                      #7497
                                      Big Jim
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                                        Lallana passes and moves the ball well when I have seen him play. He always looks to run into space. Be a mistake imo not to take him if he’s fit. Sturridge on his day is a finisher but his days are so infrequent. I would leave him out. Henderson is worse than Dier I would definitely leave him out. Strikers it has to be Kane, Vardy and Rashford. Possibly Defoe and Solanke? How many players can we take, do you know? Just checked it’s 23!

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                                        #7503
                                        nine nine nine
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                                          Jim, I understand what you’re saying and I know Wilshere divides opinion even among Arsenal fans but the key against the best sides in the World is ball retention and we suffered due to the lack of it v Brazil and if and when he’s fit Wilshere has the ability to retain the ball and use it well.

                                          Will Southgate pick him? I doubt it without he’s playing regularly for Arsenal and on top form both of which seem a way away currently.

                                          Of the strikers Kane, Rashford and Vardy are shoe ins imo after which I would be tempted to take one of the young strikers, overall I think Southgate might well go with quite a young squad for Russia and I think that makes sense because we have to be looking past this World Cup because we’re not going to win it and I would like to see Southgate use it to build something more meaningful going forwards with an eye on the Euro’s and the next World Cup given the quality of what we have coming through with players like young Foden etc.

                                          The squad selection v Holland and Italy in March will be interesting with that in mind. Cheers 999

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                                          #7516
                                          Rob Tab
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                                            bad news Italy out of the world cup but then again did they deserve it? I think they just did unfortunately for them. Wonder who will be their next manager, heard Ancelotti but never really rated him that much either. Like you know who always ends up at the top top clubs.

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