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  • #199059
    Chucky McChuckface
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      So, Mr. Wasitcoat is about to announce the squad for next weeks double header against Germany and Italy… who’s in? And who’s out?

      Personally, I would be very surprised to see Dier missing from the squad. Has there been a better performing English CB over the last 8 months or so? Perhaps Stones (who seems to be 3rd choice at club level anyway), anybody else? I can’t think of any, that’s for sure.

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      #199060
      Chucky McChuckface
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        Not sure about that new home kit either… like the away kit though!

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        #199061
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          Toney getting his first call up supposedly, which is warranted. Someone like Maguire is always a tricky one because he’s always done well for England but is no longer playing for his club. We’re not very strong at CB at the moment at all. They all have a mistake in them. Phillips is another one. Not playing for his club but has never let Southgate down.

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          #199062
          Chucky McChuckface
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            Phillips has never let Waistcoat down, for sure, but I’ve never seen him pull up trees either… a player that goes down in the “not sure what the fuss is about” column in my book.

            Agree about Tooney though…

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            #199063
            steveosnakeeye
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              It would be a sad indictment of our national team if players play who donโ€™t get a game at club level or have been pants for ages โ€ฆ. It has to be on form or you end up with same old names comfy and not bothered

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              #199064
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                I agree to a degree Steve but I think there’s such a thing as International form also. Someone like Welbeck was a good example. He was, for a long time, very good for England every time he played yet didn’t always get picked for his club. Say Southgate has gone through a whole qualifying round with two CBs he trusts and who complement each other. He’s built up a partnership over time. Then suddenly one gets dropped for his club. Surely, he should be allowed to pick the team he feels is the most balanced and the team which gives him the best chance of succeeding, in his opinion? Or should he have to completely rethink his entire strategy because one of his trusted players is no longer getting as many minutes? I’m not defending any one particular player, such as Phillips, but I don’t think you can solely look at club form/appearances.

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                #199065
                Chucky McChuckface
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                  I agree to disagree to a degree, I think current club form is a good indicator to a players current “form”…and that should be a better indicator than the form guide based on previous international games, which is turn, go further back in time than recent club form… Engerland’s defence hasn’t looked all that great for a few games now, from what I remember (they were certainly pants against Hungury, that I do remember!!!)

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                  #199066
                  Chucky McChuckface
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                    Right, I see the squads been announced… that seems to be a lot of full-backs/wingbacks to me…

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                    #199067
                    Chucky McChuckface
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                      Right then, who want’s to pick a formation and 11 from that lot? I’m off for a think…

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                      #199069
                      nine nine nine
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                        Like the inclusion of Toney hopefully he can provide a good plan b.

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                        #199070
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                          I’m not saying he should put International form above club form, just that he shouldn’t be expected to just discount it. He has to find a balanced side and if that means sticking with players he trusts over players who happen to be on form at that particular moment when an England camp happens to be at that exact time. Form is temporary, after all. I think you need a certain amount of continuity otherwise you’d be changing the team far too often.

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                          #199071
                          Nike19
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                            The Away Kit is Mint; reminds me of Lineker’s late days for England around 91/92 ๐Ÿ™‚

                            That’s probably the only good thing going!

                            Toney deserves a place. The Boy has done Gooooode!

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                            #199072
                            FoxyFoxes
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                              I’ve rated Toney for a while. Not many weaknesses to his game and will cause havoc for opposition defences. However, I can’t see him ever starting so long as Kane is fit.

                              You’d assume Southgate will go for a back three, as he’s obsessed with it. If he does, then I would go with the following lineup:

                              Pickford
                              Walker – Dier – Stones
                              TTA – – – – – – – – Chilwell
                              ——– Philips———–
                              —–Rice———Foden—
                              Kane —- Sterling

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                              #199073
                              threeps
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                                He won’t pick TAA as a starter, for one he is in poor form but more importantly he is far to adventurous for a Southgate team. Likely James will get the nod or Trippier if he deploys the bore the opposition to tears then grab a goal from a freekick tactic.

                                The only reason I can of for TAA being included in the final WC squad is if England are chasing a game and Southgate gets a little dizzy in the head and decides he needs that attacking threat.

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                                #199074
                                FoxyFoxes
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                                  The only reason I would pick TAA (as I’m not a fan of his) is because of the back 3 plus Philips and Rice in my lineup there. All of those are very defensively minded and could cover for TAA who can be free to maraud forward

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                                  #199075
                                  Chucky McChuckface
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                                    He can whip a ball in with the best of them, but I can’t see TAA being anything more than a bit of a super-sub coming on when we’re chasing a game… not under current management (personally, I’d start him in a 3-4-3 with Walker behind him to act as cover!)

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                                    #199076
                                    nine nine nine
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                                      I can’t see TAA starting either given his current form and the fact he seems to have lost any urgency when defending.

                                      However in forward mode he remains a very good player though. I would definitely take him to Qatar because of that bringing him on late in a game when England are chasing a goal he could make the difference.

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                                      #199077
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                                        We’re spoilt for choice at RB. In TAA, Trippier, Walker and James, we must have the best selection of RBs in World Football. TAA hasn’t looked great so far this season so if he’s struggled for game time for England before now, I can’t see how he forces his way in when he’s playing like he has been. He’s probably the poorest defender of the 4 but the best going forward. It makes sense to go for one of the more balanced choices IMO. I think James is a more rounded fullback/wingback and not much less capable going forward.

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                                        #199089
                                        Brian blue
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                                          Foxy..I think Pickford is out of action, Walker still not fit. the rest of selection you are probably right, the best we have at moment

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                                          #199164
                                          Adlab
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