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Ed, you have mentioned de zebri a few times but again what has he done ? I think he would end up like potter no? I never heard of him till he came to England. Did he win things abroad ?
Brighton weβre playing some fantastic football under potter. Not really dissimilar to the great stuff they are playing now?
He walked into a club on the up. Took potter3 years to get Brighton playing like that. Utd job be far to big for him no?
Heβs only in pl a year.
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Yeh I’m not convinced on De Zerbi either. I dont think he’s balanced enough. They can have some big wins and then some big losses.
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If you need to appoint a manager that’s done something who is available? Pep and Klopp clearly untouchable, who else is there? Zidane? Ancellotti? They’ve both won things but doubt either would be a popular choice. Even Tuchel and Nagelsmann, both I would describe as winners, were sacked fairly recently. Utd went down the experienced route before with van Gaal and Mourinho and they were both deemed prehistoric in the their play styles.
De Zebri has taken Potters work and enhanced it further. If backed and with like minded staff around and crucially above him he could work wonders at utd if given that most precious commodity, time. He would be my choice to succeed Klopp if Klopp stood down right now.
Sometimes you need to take a chance on a smaller name with good ideas and back 100%. Maybe that man still is ETH but he needs better support around, beneath and above him.
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There is no one out there I agree threeps. Absolutely no one around at the moment but I really do think he would end up like potter. One good season and he gets the utd job?
Brighton had everything in place by potter which took him more then two years to get to. I donβt buy Into the hype.
Seen it so many times were people go overboard after one good season. Done a great job but letβs see weβre Brighton are come end of the season and if he can continue their ride
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This is all hypothetical as there is no big job for him at the moment. As you say eth is very earjy days and could be the man to push utd on
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I doubt any manager could come in and change the fortunes at United unless they are given time. It took Ferguson 7 years to remove out the culture that was embedded previously. Imo this is much worse. The manager is under more scrutiny with the money spent and it is easier to leak things to the press.
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Threeps said pretty much what I was about to. Absolutely no point going for another one of these names who just bounce around all the top clubs getting sacked after a decent season. Tuchel, Conte, Zidane?
De Zerbi has really taken Brighton forward from what Potter was doing. I actually think Potter’s job there was a bit over-hyped. He had a pretty long winless streak before doing a decent job eventually but nothing like what we’re seeing now.
I’m just absolutely fascinated by the job he’s doing there. Look at this from his time there
Brighton in the Premier League since Roberto De Zerbi's first game in charge:
β Most shots (574)
β Most shots on target (22)
β Most goals from open play (57)
β Highest xG (69.84)De Zerbi-ball is incredible. π€€ pic.twitter.com/ymoySXPyjX
— Squawka (@Squawka) August 19, 2023
Do you realise how impressive those stats are with the little investment he’s had? He’s schooled the likes of Ten Hag and Klopp multiple times. Playing the likes of Danny Welbeck up front. It’s crazy. Yes they got battered by Aston Villa but that’s quite rare for his sides. That can always happen when you’re as open and attacking as they are. The way they build from the back is just so impressive.
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Ye time will tell Ed and Iβve absolutely no doubt he will school us Sunday after my comments!
Letβs see were he is in a years time or more.
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Some stats about Potter’s time at Brighton:
– set a club record 14 home games without a win
– achieved a single home win in 2020
– 3 months without a home goal between January and April 2022
– 6 defeats in a rowYes he did a decent job in the end but it’s really not like the job De Zerbi is doing
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100% Sean. We’ve seen managers like him come and go after a good first season so it could be premature to hype him up.
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Worth remembering though that he’s lost his 2 starting midfielders over the summer and his side look every bit as good so far, aside from the Villa game.
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He still had som big losses last season. Its one big problem I think with this current modern way of playing that when it’s good, it’s great. But when it’s bad, it can be catastrophic. Only Pep seems to have mastered a balanced way of doing it that is both great up top and pretty solid at the back. I think under Klopp it’s the fear of our attack and general workrate that tends to keep opposing teams somewhat pinned back although we can still be vulnerable.
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Got to admit, Ten Hag has made some bizarre decisions lately which should not be criticised.
Stripping Maguire the captaincy and handing it to Bruno. Bruno is a brilliant player on his day, but I don’t think he is captains material. Too much of a hot head.
Not playing Mount recently. Paid Β£60m and was his main target. Gave him the number 7 shirt and has dropped him lately.
Not playing Varane and Reguilon yesterday. Both should have started.
Taking Amrabat off at half time.
Keeping Rashford on when he has been playing poorly lately.
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From an outsider’s POV, I wonder what Ten-Hag’s relationship like with McClaren. Ten Hag seems an isolated figurehead. He seems changed appearing less assertive and commanding.
He needs to make some key decisions on the field quickly and with them being bold moves. A shake up is needed.
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Agree Nil.
I hope he wakes up soon, behind elite managers like Klopp and Pep. I believe Ten Hag is just a level below. He needs time to fix the problems that have crept in to the club over the years.
If United let him go, Bayern or Barcelona will be after him guaranteed and he will be a success at either club.
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He’s got it CM, for sure. Otherwise how else would he last season won the League Cup and consolidate Champions League?
Personally I 100% don’t have Doubt in TH. It’s the other factors quite purely and simply he’s having to Battle.
Stick with him. He’ll come Good.
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Leaks coming out about Ten Hag. The same old story.
Blame the manager because he is too tough i.e. Ten Hag, Van Gaal, Jose. Blame the manager because he is not tough enough i.e. Ole.
You can guess which players have leaked the stories. They have been around that club for years.
I would say this again, the Glazers have allowed players get away with being spoilt brats for so long, regardless who the manager is, it will continue happening.
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I do think the whole Sancho saga has been quite pivotal in all this CM. He definitely has friends in that dressing room and Ten Hag’s hardline approach is both what the club desperately need in the long term and potentially very dangerous in the short term. Ten Hag’s football relies on a lot of intensity and when you don’t have everyone on side, it can be disastrous.
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Bizarre comments about this utd team never going to play like his Ajax team as they donβt have the players? He bought 3 players from that Ajax team for about 180m.
He was spot on about sancho. He should never play for utd again. 73m for a player who doesnβt even try. He is everything that is wrong with some current players. Heβs lazy.
You need to be a motivator. Have players who will run through walls for you and utd Just donβt do that for the manager
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Spot on Sean. Those Ajax comments are ridiculous. So many questions which should be asked of him. Why force out De Gea and bring in a ball-playing keeper if he doesn’t want to play out from the back? As you say, absolutely bizarre to suggest he doesn’t have the players when he’s bought almost solely from the Eredivisie and, often, directly from Ajax.
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