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  • #110365
    Chucky McChuckface
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      Peggy, whereas all our precious clubs are as pure as an angels hymen… 🙂

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      #110370
      nine nine nine
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        Pagan it would be a bit obvious if a Club spends substantially more than they have in other seasons on transfers and then adds that loss to the loss that they will make anyway due to Coronavirus it will stand out like a sore thumb that’s before Price Waterhouse Audit their books on UEFA’s behalf.

        I think Chucky has summarised it all pretty well in his posts.

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        #110408
        maverick1973
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          Kylie-You might be right to an extent,in terms of who starts the ball rolling 1st.And it will be PSG and Newcastle,if the takover goes ahead.Then the merry-go-round will commence,say Newcastle offer £150m for Arry Kane,that will give Spudsies £150m to spend,and so on & so on.One thing is for sure,the pre-Covid-19 era of madness in the transfer market is over

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          #110409
          maverick1973
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            Utd will be extremely lucky to get £50m for Instapussy.

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            #110415
            nine nine nine
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              Mav, Say Newcastle offer £150m for Kane. 🙂 I thought Kane if he were to go wants to join a big Club that guarantees trophies not a project.

              Anyway Newcastle losses already running at over 30m euros over the last two years despite the wealth of the owners assuming the takeover goes through they won’t be able to spend silly money and keep within FFP and they need to do that to try and get into Europe. But you’re right about a lot of Clubs needing to sell to buy this transfer window and even then I suspect it will be a constrained window.

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              #110417
              maverick1973
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                9s-Just winding up our Aussie tart,but Newcastle will be allowed to spend,just not crazy amounts.One thing for sure,the pricetags of players would fall significantly compared to pre-Corona,so not a chance of £150m for Kane,lol. An XXL bag of crisps,handwashing liquid,and a bag of onions for Kane,2 packs of chewing gums and a months supply of toilet paper for Pogba.

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                #110418
                Pagan
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                  Chuckles, Spurs being one that springS to mind, bought yourself out of a relegation if memory serves me right???…..Pagan

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                  #110419
                  Chucky McChuckface
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                    Did we? When was that? (Seriously, going to Google that now!)

                    I remember the Goonies buying their way in… but not my Spuds buying their way out.

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                    #110420
                    Pagan
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                      Mid 90s Chuckles, you were found guilty of some financial irregularities I believe, I think they wanted to relegate you, then they docked you points and gave you a fine, in the end it was just a fine. I think that’s roughly correct…..Pagan

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                      #110421
                      Chucky McChuckface
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                        Okay, googled it, remember that… hardly buying their way out of relegation though… 🙂

                        This bit did make me larff…

                        The fine alone is six times more than the previous record one of pounds 105,000 imposed on Chelsea for alleged irregular payments to three players three years ago.

                        You lot were cheating bastards even before us… didn’t you lot get in trouble for that again quite recently, dodgy payments linked to dodgy signings? Transfer ban or something??

                        Greenhouses, cyber chum, greenhouses… 🙂

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                        #110422
                        Pagan
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                          Chuckles, I believe the spurs offences were committed in the mid 80s, but weren’t brought to light until the 90s.

                          Initially I’m sure they wanted to relegate you, then there were discussions and it ended up with a fine and points deduction, and then after appeals it ended up as a much bigger fine…..Pagan

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                          #110423
                          Chucky McChuckface
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                            The article said they “occurred” in 91 and were admitted in 94… but as the article also said, Chelsea was found guilty of the same thing in 91… 🙂

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                            #110424
                            nine nine nine
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                              “The worst was yet to come. Financial irregularities from the 1980s finally caught up with the club, and the FA came down hard: a £600,000 fine, a ban from the following season’s FA Cup, and harshest of all, a 12-point deduction in next season’s league campaign. (After an appeal, the fine went up by 150%. The points deduction and FA Cup exclusion were lifted).”

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                              #110425
                              Chucky McChuckface
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                                Must be a different article… 🙂

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                                #110426
                                Pagan
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                                  85 to 89 according to this, still could have been worse, you could have been caught talking to Arsenals left back in a hotel

                                  May, 1994 – Irregular Payments

                                  During the previous year’s High Court proceedings caused by the acrimonious fall-out between Chairman, Alan Sugar and Chief Executive, Terry Venables, details of irregular payments to players came to light. On 12th May, 1994 the Football Association formally charged Spurs with misconduct for the alleged irregular payment to a number of players. These had been made under the previous regime and were allegedly paid to players between 1985 and 1989. In the hope for clemency and that the authorities would treat them leniently, Spurs co-operated with the FA and assisted them by handing over documents which appeared to show that the payments had been made.

                                  The FA, however, were treating the matter very seriously and a fortnight later before any judgement had been given by the inquiry team, they announced the arrangements should Spurs be demoted from the Premier League to Division 1 as a result of their misdemeanours. Sheffield United who had finished 20th in the Premier League would be the beneficiary’s of Spurs punishment by retaining their place in the top flight.

                                  It was looking bad for Spurs and when the FA Commission gave their verdict in mid-June, it wasn’t much better. The investigation covered 40 charges of malpractice which involved payments made to fifteen players. The inquiry found Spurs guilty and imposed a record fine of £600,000. They imposed a deduction of 12 points from their total at the end of the 1994-95 season and Tottenham were expelled from that season’s FA Cup.

                                  These were the severest punishments ever handed out and shocked the football world. The punishments amounted to relegation by a slow and painful process. Fans were devastated and a heavy cloud of despondency hung over the club. Alan Sugar was so infuriated at the heavy-handed nature of the FA’s treatment of the club that he immediately announced an appeal. He regarded the punishment as ‘a deliberate vendetta against our club and against me personally.’

                                  Tottenham Appeal Against Punishment

                                  The appeal against the penalties imposed by the FA inquiry into the charge of misconduct was held in early July. Chairman, Alan Sugar, was the man for the occasion – he presented Spurs’ case against all of the punishments. Having considered the case, the Appeal panel halved the points deduction to six but increased the fine to £1,500,000 as well as maintaining the Cup ban.

                                  A Second Appeal

                                  Jun 2, 2013; Washington, DC, USA; USA head coach Jurgen Klinsmann smiles before the game against Germany at RFK Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Paul Frederiksen-USA TODAY Sports
                                  Sugar was still not satisfied and immediately announced that Spurs would again appeal against the penalties that had been imposed against the club. Sugar felt most aggrieved that the misconduct charges had been under a previous regime at the club and also that he had tried to co-operate with the FA over the investigation.

                                  Spurs’ season started under the burden of a six point deduction but the arrival of Jurgen Klinsmann had given the club a much needed boost. The appeal, however, didn’t take place until early December.

                                  On This Day, 9th December, 1994

                                  Alan Sugar had his finest hour as he battled successfully against the Football Association to secure Spurs’ re-instatement to the FA Cup. Sugar had been so enraged by the punishment that he had promised to have the decision over turned. He was as good as his word and kept up the fight in spite of various set-backs and won the day, much to the delight of the fans who would be able to look forward to a 3rd Round home tie against Altrincham in January.

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                                  #110427
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Brescia’s Captain says the whole squad are against a return of Serie A.

                                    3 players and 3 staff test positive for Coronavirus at Fiorentina.

                                    Sampdoria announce 4 players test positive for Coronavirus

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                                    #110443
                                    Chelsea1967
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                                      We talk Premier League and other Countries major leagues on here pretty much totally however what are the futures of all the Championship clubs and those even more vulnerable below them? Are any Premier League clubs looking like they will go belly up if the delay in restarting the football is protracted? What will happen with the Championship and lower League fixtures. Have their seasons already been abandoned ie. null and void?

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                                      #110604
                                      maverick1973
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                                        Any team who signed/signs Pogba should be banned for 10 years and fined £100m.

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                                        #110771
                                        Chucky McChuckface
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                                          Anyway… I still stand by my comment that all our precious clubs are just as guilty as UEFA when to being sneaky scallywags… 🙂

                                          It’s all a simple question of who gets caught for what… nobody is truly innocent!

                                          (And YooUtd should be banned for 10 years and fined a billion pounds for simply existing!)

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                                          #110956
                                          nine nine nine
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                                            Clubs will have to either agree new contracts with out of contract players or a temporary contract until the end of the season or the players will be allowed to play for a new Club from June 24th in the remaining PL games of project restart?????

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