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  • #100485
    Anonymous

      That Daily heil article has Ozil at the training ground… Must be a first for him showing up in arsenal colours! ?

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      #100494
      Anonymous

        Fuck football… Sorry to all out there wanting it to return… I dont until its clear, fans in stadia aint going to happen until September or even next year, gigs will be cancelled, all major events cancelled. The logistics of tracking a 25 man playing squad, the backroom staff if theyre still employed running up into hundreds at each club, means the FA (incompetent fucktards at the best of times) have to track more than 20 thousand people in the top Football league and more if you go down the divisions. 20 thousand dead and continuing to rise, The second wave is hitting countries too…

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        #100505
        Brian blue
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          Chuky, quiet right, that has been the way of the world for last 20 years or so. The point I was trying to make was this crisis has to be a game changer in all aspects of our life and many things will be affected from oil prices, although I know they will get there own back at some stage and prices will escalate again, labour, materials, travel etc. I also think think we , in this country can make competitively, why do I say this, because we can also use technology. I can point to many industries where for greater output and lower costs than it was in the high and quantiful labour days it could be done. It has not been done because of countries like China, India etc are and still will produce such low cost products. This will catch up on them now There is a sequence to all this and you will find after the ww2 the low cost countries like Japan were eventually beaten one by one with other countries but now , we have Japan, Korea and Taiwan at top of the technology tree. Our balance between Services and Industry tipped too far over and needs to be addressed.
          A good Govt. will get it right. When I started my business my inspiration was a famous quote from John Ruskin, I stuck with it and it served me well Take care Chuky

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          #100512
          Chucky McChuckface
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            Double B… like most of us who’ve got time to dispose of lately, been watching too much Youtube and things like that, and (I can see all the jokes on here already!) wathcing a load of those self-sustainable style of videos, while subtly mentioning to Granddad who’s got more than an acre or two up his self… I’m going all Felicity Kendell in her wellies at the momemnt, wondering how it would actually work. Obvioulsy it isn’t going to supply everything but I have to admit, it has given me something to think about.

            As some of you lot know, I’m in the pollution game, and one of the biggest cases of pollution is simply moving food from one place to another, from all these factory farms all over the world. Self-sufficiancy has so many benifits it’s unreal. Obvioulsy I know not everybody is capable of doing so, but I think a lot of people can do a lot more than they do now.

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            #100521
            nine nine nine
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              “There is no wealth but life.”

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              #100549
              Mikus LFC
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                Brian, you reminded me of this clip from that much to be admired and self sustaining country, Japan, of this old school engineering master, who is that dedicated to his profession, in some jobs he didn’t make a profit because quality and devotion trumped money. Isn’t that supposedly the socialist’s dream?…but here you have it without any coercion. We may be a bit poorer by being less globalised, but having our *own* professions and pride in them is worth far more than raw money…

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                #100565
                Brian blue
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                  Mikus, apprenticeships should be mandatory.I did 5 years, hard at the time but well worth it.
                  I have met many people with the same high skills as the clip shows around the world, these people are truly remarkable and are being lost in the sense that we are not training enough to follow them
                  I had one such person working for me, he did everything “the Navy way” including cleaning up after himself every job, he was one of the people I have just lost and was my “hands on” Works Manager
                  Thanks for posting the response

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                  #100570
                  Mikus LFC
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                    I’m very sorry for your loss Brian, and alas, the general loss of such professionals in the country. Completely agree with you about apprenticeships; pushing everyone to go to university has, I don’t think, been particularly productive.

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                    #100573
                    Brian blue
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                      Chuky…it must be my age or I have found a new lease of life but I am actually NOT watching TV that much now. I would say my viewing is less than 10 hrs a week now. I think its great
                      Chuky…you keep working on ways to make things better, then everyone will feel the benefit.
                      I wonder sometimes when I see one of these huge container ships brim full of cheap throw away plastic toys…..why do we do this. a small plastics firm could do that for goodness sake, that is if we really needed so many cheap plastic toys.

                      Never mind Chuky, when I am PM I will ban such items and make them make sensible toys or should I say tools for apprentices of the future

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                      #100575
                      Brian blue
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                        Mikus…..As I said to Chuky…when I am PM I will also bring back Technical Colleges

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                        #100657
                        Pagan
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                          Brian, I was probably one of the last proper apprentices, I started mine in 81 as a technical apprentice, the first 12 months was spent in a training centre with the craft apprentices. The idea was then that the techs went into the offices and the crafts stayed on the shop floor. I did both, as I went into the R&D section, which was brilliant.

                          My older brother was also apprentice trained and ended up working at a university in the engineering workshops whilst also working for himself restoring classic cars, he’s unbelievably skilled in machining, sheet metal and welding.

                          My eldest is currently doing an engineering apprenticeship, so hopefully he’ll do ok for himself.

                          The main problem in this country is that this type of skill is vastly under appreciated and paid, people want bespoke high quality work for bodge it and scarper price….Pagan

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                          #100673
                          Adlab
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                            In a way I also did a sort of apprenticeship as an articled clerk towards qualifying as a Chartered Accountant. I started on Β£5/week!
                            It didnt do mme any harm and you learnt on the job – as well as having to paxs exams.
                            During the early days I went to some companies on audit and many had apprentices again learning on the job from the old experienced hands. No substitute. These guys gained a skill which would last.
                            But today we have to import Romanians to pick fruit….Will things change once things get back to normal? No. Not with the vested interests in charge.

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                            #100684
                            nine nine nine
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                              13 years at Sony UK HQ was my apprenticeship.? Absolutely brilliant experience.

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                              #100703
                              Brian blue
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                                Pagan..that is something to be proud of. R/D is a brilliant place to be but shop floor was always my place until I was pushed upstairs. I also did 3 years in RAF as a Rigger and cried when I came out. Always loved aeroplanes, older the better

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                                #100705
                                Brian blue
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                                  Nine…did they give you a Walkman? I also have some of the early Disc formats, forget what they called them but was supposed to do away with CDs then the USBs appeared and SDs

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                                  #100708
                                  Brian blue
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                                    Adlab..it was and still is the best way to learn……on the job itself

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                                    #101021
                                    Chelsea1967
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                                      A bit of light relief in these tough times. A friend sent me this on facebook. Some French mob you Europeans may have come across before. Very creative stuff.

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                                      #101027
                                      Chelsea1967
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                                        this one not bad, even better if they got in a quality female vocalist but the percussion outstanding, especially with all the bottles toward the end of it.

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                                        #101123
                                        nine nine nine
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                                          You’ve raised some memories there Bruan mentioning Walkman etc.?

                                          My original career plan was to work in Advertising where I worked in some of the big London Agencies I decided at some point that I wanted some Client side experience for a couple of years and was fortunate enough to get an Adertising role at Sony that was me hooked to be honest with you they were such exciting times and Sony was such an exciting company to work at.

                                          Back to the Walkman though as Sony grew and developed their product range in the UK so did the way they wanted to manage their business and if you were lucky you were regularly moved around to develop you at about this time given their massive portfolio of products Sony went to a Product Manager system and I was appointed Product Manager for Sony’s Portable Audio Range and along came Walkman and I was responsible for its launch onto the UK market which was very exciting and got me involved in lots of cross promotional opportunities with the record labels and the music industry generally as well as sports brands like Nike. So I had my pick of Walkmans.?

                                          You may or may not be aware Brian but Walkman was the brainchild of its co founder and President Akio Morita who was not only a brilliant man but he also had an amazing aura about him too, because I headed up Walkman in the UK whenever he visited the UK offices he spent time sitting down with me discussing all things Walkman which was pretty amazing.

                                          Almost everyone who worked alongside me at Sony during that era went on to have great careers because of what they learnt and how they were developed working at Sony.

                                          It set me up for a great career in Consumer Electronics which was both highly enjoyable and very exciting and not only did I get to spend a lot of time in Japan but I saw the World too.

                                          The only thing I would have swapped it for would have been being a Chelsea first team player from 2004 to 2012.?

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                                          #101143
                                          nine nine nine
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                                            The ECA and UEFA need to agree the propsed start for the 20/21 Season across Europe that then sets the timetable for not only the Summer transfer market but also when this season has to end by if they do manage to get it up and running.

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