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Adlab-Thats not a bore @ all,mate,its a spot on analysis.
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Pagan-For this season only,I take it???
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The Dutch league has been abandoned with current positions counting as their final positions, with no champions and no relegation. This is very different to voiding which UEFA have already said would result in no European places next season. This actually makes sense to me but I cannot see it being replicated in its entirety for the Premier League. The major difference is that the Eredivisie has AZ and Ajax top on the same points, Ajax shading it with the goal difference. So going down the points per game would not separate them. Also abandoning the league with the title destination so close would surely cause too many problems. No winners but UEFA spots taken and prize money distributed by current standings and is the safest option.
I think they didn’t want to relegate anyone as again this could open up a lot of problems. This I can see happening in the Premier League for the same reason as apart from Norwich it’s very close down there. I cannot see anything other than Liverpool being declared champions as they are so far ahead. What will happen to promotion to the Premier League is anyone’s guess but I suspect a 22 team league next season. In the Netherlands, the Dutch second division is led by 14 points by a team called Camburr and they will not gain promotion. Apparently they are pretty miffed at the decision.
Here in DE it looks like the Bundesliga will start again next month. The big difference is that Germany is way ahead of the UK in the fight against Coronavirus. This week small shops have opened again and to be life is almost back to normal. I can’t see this as an option for the Premier League for another couple of months.
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Threeps, itβs quite clever from the Dutch, abandoning it means no winners and no losers. If you award the tittle then you have to have losers, and losers get relegated…..Pagan
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I dont think awarding a championship and relegation are mutually exclusive to be honest. But you’re right it seems a clever call by the Dutch FA if it goes ahead. If they they awarded Ajax the title AZ would kick up a huge stink. If they relegated some teams they too would. By doing it the way they have only a team in the second division upset which is probably the best situation they could make bar playing the remaining games. I’m guessing that has been judged as a no go.
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Surprised by this decision by the Dutch FA surely if the season is null and void it applies to all the European places too?
No easy answers to any of this.
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9, they havenβt voided it, theyβve abandoned it, in essence it may be the same thing, but UEFA didnβt want leagues voiding and the Dutch have been quite clever….Pagan
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Pagan, not according to Mav’s link above “Yet it has now been declared null and void following a three-month extension to the government ban was announced on Tuesday.”.
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9, my earlier link says abandoned, no mention of null and void, still you take The Sun as your source and Iβll stick with The BBC??….Pagan
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Pagan, it’s not just the Sun, the Mail, Guardian and Express all say the same and I don’t believe there is a quote from the Dutch FA that says by them directly that they are abandoning the Season but I could be wrong.
As you say abandoning the season or null and voiding the Season is essentislly one and the same thing anyway.
And the Dutch FA didn’t have to run scared of UEFA given this from the UEFA meeting “existence of an official order prohibiting sports events so that the domestic competitions cannot be completed before a date that would make it possible to complete the current season in good time before the next season to start.”
Be Intersting to see how this all plays out across Europe with all the Leagues.
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Nine…they may have to re title the UEFA brand into NUEFA…Non Unified Football Association???
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Brian, π
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The question is WHY get everybody’s backs up in different countries who have a bigger problem.. The answer to me is let the final league standing count. Abandon the Euro Cup next year and let the clubs sort themselves out, now that would be helpful to all clubs to concentrate on domestic issues which need to be addressed like how the big clubs will support the smaller ones . No word from any of the Associations on that only how they protect what they have, all of them the same….I will throw in Players Union as well under Taylor
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Anyone watching Gangs of London? It’s a tad violent all episodes available on Demand on Sky.
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But didnt Belgium decide to declare the leading team a champion?
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Donβt get all the fuss about this, or the various scenarios floated.
Itβs quite clear to me.
Get through this first stage of the virus and public health risks first. Then see where/when we are, and take stock.
Finish the season, probably behind closed doors. Finishing a competition is more important than starting a new one. If we miss a season or have an abridged condensed one after this then so be it.
First, letβs get through the first flush of this virus and see where we are once society knows more about it and how we will deal with it.
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Mav, you’re right about the Belgian League but they only had one game to go and Club Bruuge were 15 points clear.
You have to feel for Cambuur in the Dutch 2nd Division they were 11 points clear and looked on course for promotion. I think the same will happen in Scotland and Nicola Sturgeon is already making noises along the lines of the Dutch Government.
Ultimately what happens with the PL will rest with the UK Government I hope the season is not null and voided here Liverpool deserve to be crowned Champions but you can’t rule anything out and UEFA have already indicatec in tandem with all the European Leagues that the League’s for this season have to be over by August one way or other. Cheers 9’s
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Nine…I just do not understand it, first it was May then June I do not know what happened to July but even August more ta optimistic unless they go for the fudge of closed doors. We are a long way off a proven vaccine and we still do not have control of the situation. I further cannot understand the bleating for an EXIT plan, this will happen when some daylight is seen and at the moment none available. They all want to concentrate on getting us through this and leave statistics and exit plans aside, they do not mean anything at the moment. Get in control then plan what comes first. Common sense should tell us what comes first and subsequent relaxation. I fear this is becoming a media driven witch-hunt to make a move too soon, I am hoping the people continue to back the policy of stay at home longer, it will be beneficial in the long run We all want it to end, but the end must not be capable of starting again and making things worse
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