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Chuckles, the law suits won’t stop with the teams, there’s the broadcasters, their customers, the sponsors, they’ll all want their money back, not to mention the season ticket holders….Pagan
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Pagan, my post was specifically in answer to Chucky’s post of how do we decide who qualifies for the European places. If the season is voided you would have to base qualification for the CL and EL on last season’s League positions.
In terms of relegation and promotion if the season is null and void you can’t relegate anyone as null and void means “having no legal effect and to be considered therefore as if it did not exist”(Definition of null and void from the Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary)
Null and voiding the season would be incredibly unfair on Liverpool FC imo.
My understanding is that the PL Clubs will ultimately vote on all this with allegedly a majority of 14 required to pass what ever is decided.
Whatever is ultimately decided never will “you can’t please all of the people all of the time” seem more appropriate
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9, the premier league champions is probably the least contentious, they’re miles out in front, and the title was always going to be theirs. It’s every other important position in every other league that’s the problem. Promotions and relegations are all about money, and that includes the play off positions, the premier league can’t work in isolation, it has to be joined up…..Pagan
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Wolves, Sheffield United and Spurs vying for Europa League spots and the extra revenue it brings. Current position 4 also contentious as we hold it however easily could have lost it if the season was completed. Three teams on 27 points equal third last and a relegation spot trying to be avoided. I pity those that have to make a decision. Any decision could end up in legal ramifications some where. All that apart from the payment of player wages etc etc etc. We could create an unbelievable list of what ifs. At least it keeps it interesting with no football happening I guess.
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You only need to cast your mind back to the Tevez saga, the legal wrangling and money paid out…..Pagan
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Pagan, yep agree on all points that’s why I think option 2 is the best option. The PL will set the ball rolling though. Not sure how the Play Offs can be accommodated given all of the circumstances.
Something’s got to give and there’s going to be winners and losers whatever is decided. All very difficult to predict.
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At least there is no contention on whether Liverpool could go through the Premier League season undefeated lads. That would just be another unknown which may have played on the minds of the Liverpool supporters and understandably 🙂
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9, the players aren’t going to need a break in the summer, they’re getting one now. Sort out what’s going to happen and be ready for the starting gun whenever that may be….Pagan
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Pagan, all depend on what’s decided but asking the players to play a 47 game PL season 9+38 forgetting all the complications with squads etc is too much imo.
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9, it will be a 23 team league, that’s 44 games plus cups, just means more squad rotation and maybe a few other teams giving their youth a go. Chelsea got forced into it and it’s not worked out to bad…..Pagan
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22 team PL or a 23 team PL I wouldn’t discount either but getting through that many games plus Cup games and European games won’t be easy especially if the season doesn’t start until maybe September.
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I can see the 2nd half of option 2 happening but not the first half (although I see trouble from other Championship clubs!), too many clubs are close to the Holy Grail and despite my clubs position, it’s Wolves and Sheffield I feel sorry for. It’s not only LiVARberoOol who are having stellar seasons.
It’s either “play it out” when time allows, or null and void and re-set as it was last August.
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Don’t see why not it’s a squad game now so you must play every other team, 2 games a week will be a permanent thing, think of all the revenue it will bring in but that’s if people still have money after the problems and market crashes. I’m too scared to look how much I’ve already lost.
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One big problem I see is that Sheff Utd and Villa both have a game in hand (as do City and Arse but that’s less important). Sheff Utd win that they go 5th which might be a CL position, Villa win and they move out of the bottom 3.
If you’re going to end the season then it’s very unfair on the teams that haven’t played the same amount of games as the rest.
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Serie A proposing to restart the Season on May 9th.
Not a chance imo until this thing is over and Italy are one of the worst hit even the Churches are closed.
Yesterday’s Government announcements would suggest that there’s no chance of restarting the PL until July at the very earliest with no Emergency services available to Clubs until at least July and I can’t see it being over by then.
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That’s true threeps the only ways around that are to either extrapolate the points totals based on previous results or let both teams play the two games if that’s possible and it may not be.
Also I’m not sure a CL place for 5th place is necessarily a gimme by UEFA or that City won’t appeal to have the ban suspended on the basis that CAS can’t hear the case in time for next Season’s CL meaning it wouldn’t go to a 5th place team this season and most PL Clubs seem to be in favour of no relegation if the season can’t be completed which would take care of the Villa problem. And also even if Sheffield United won their game in hand without they won it 10 nil they would still be behind United on goal difference.
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Given that the CAS is postponing cases until at least May, my guess is that whatever happens in the case, City would be most likely to be in next seasons CL. I think who is fifth is irrelevant.
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Problem is puppy, the rule book is the rule book, you can’t change the rules 2/3rds of the way through the season and base it all on point averages etc…
Sure, have the rule put in place for future seasons, but you can’t introduce it during a season. The problem is, with the amount of money involved, anything outside of the rule book is going to get the lawyers all worked up…
Genuinely think there’s two options here…
A) Wait until it blows over and finish the season (although no idea what will happen with regards to players contracts, that’s a whole other can of worms).2) Considering the nonsense with player contracts, you go by the rule book and void the season (although I have no idea what that would mean for next season Euro places or promotion/demotion).
Any other scenario is just going to be chaos in the courts…
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This home office nonsense is doing my head in, bad enough when I’m on my own, but got the boss and the monkey at home as well… at least the dog is loving it!!
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Nine, was going to give you a thumbs up for using the word extrapolate, it’s such a delightful sounding word.
But then you ruined it by bad maths!
43+3>45
So no thumbs up for you! 😀
Not wanting to go down the old City/CAS thing again on this thread hence the word “might”, but 5th place would be a EL place at least whilst 7th I’m guessing wouldn’t?
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