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  • #173186
    Nike19
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      It’s fine as it is in my view. It’s players. Do they need ‘Babysitting’? No means no. I’ve not been to any Pub personally for a long time, probably since last year when I went to London work related.

      Players are just turning the blind eye and not mindful of the ramifications. The outbreak means self-isolation and getting tested not to mention letting your employer know for the purpose of track and trace. It’s not that hard, but these individuals are bringing the Sport down.

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      #173328
      Adlab
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        Nearly 61,000 new positive tests today and just under 900 deaths.
        Should ALL football continue or like schools shut?

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        #173329
        nine nine nine
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          Personally I think we should close it down until the worst is over but I also understand the view that playing games is a positive for the nation at a difficult time.

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          #173330
          maverick1973
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            Especially now with so many new cases,and the new lockdown rules.

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            #173339
            Nike19
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              It feels like we’re right back to where we started back in March, if not, worse.

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              #173345
              sean the sailor
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                Ye full lockdown here nil

                I look at my mates in Perth in Australia abd they it’s Covid free. They closed the borders from day 1.

                This really could have been managed so much better then it has been by our government

                Bunch of idiots. 10 months later abd it’s worse now then ever

                So what do you do? Lockdown for a month then open up then shut down etc until enough vaccinations rolled out???ive no idea what the answer is but the way it is being handled now is not working

                Used to it now every few months, you just get frustrated. I am hearing more and more people I know catching this and some have really suffered. I won’t be going anywhere. Work from home now as I’ve been back in work since June on and off

                Stay safe lads as it’s rampant now

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                #173346
                Brian blue
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                  If we had done what we were told at the start it would not have come to this but the stupidity of people, even now, wanting there freedom to do what they want at the expense of everyone else. Why cannot people take responsibility , but no. they want there holidays, etc. How they afford them also beats me. We suffer from a poor society, I know there are exceptions of people doing wonderous things but they are few and far between and the rest take an attitude….well, somebody will do it……but never them. Keep safe everyone and follow the rules lets get this job done

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                  #173347
                  Brian blue
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                    Adlab….I cannot work out what people want let alone what the Govt does or does not do. If he kept the schools open….they are blearing it is not right and he must close. Now, he closes them and they are bleating again because he has closed them. The Political football yet again. I can only say, that this Pandemic has shook the world, NOBODY knew anything about it or how to tackle it, experts included and if they gave an opinion there was always a caveat, in other words, they do not know. If you then create a political debate like we have done, this deflects from people getting on with the job in the same way as the stupid camera people in hospitals running up and down wards instead of letting the medics get on with the job. We need to be more disciplined if we are to get any measure of control over this situation

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                    #173348
                    nine nine nine
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                      Sean, you need to balance the size of the Country and populations in respect of Australia and NZ v the size of the UK.

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                      #173351
                      sean the sailor
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                        People have been selfish Brian no doubt about it but the government cannot keep blaming the people.

                        The virus is killing people but do are the actions of the governments. What’s it costing them? Nothing. They still get their full wage. Why don’t they go on the pandemic payment?

                        People are taking their own lives. Domestic abuse has risen. People have list their livelihoods.

                        This could have been dealt with so much better. So called experts contradicting themselves every day. The people are an issue. Totally agree but this has been a shambles from our Irish government.

                        The people have no faith in them at all. Close, open, close, open and in ten months we are worse then we ever were.

                        People have to work. There shoujd have been answers now on how to live with this. It’s a mess

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                        #173352
                        sean the sailor
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                          Not talking about the uk nine. They are an absolute embarrassment mate with brexit abd Covid. The world is laughing at the uk mate and that’s not having a dig chum. That’s the reality.

                          I’m taking about 5 million people in Ireland. The same population as New Zealand and we still let 30k people in from the uk before Christmas when they knew about the new straint

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                          #173354
                          Brian blue
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                            Sean…this is my point, no matter what Govt are in charge they would have all done the same. We, the people have to pay these selfish MPs to do the right job, first by ALL of them agreeing to a plan to get us through it and yes..they should take a pay cut like everyone else but I will guarantee one will be secretly guided through Parliament with a nice rise. That is what politicians do . However, we stuck with a system and cannot do without Governance or arnachy would prevail and we have elements who would certainly like that. SO, I agree the Govt does need to get better but these are not easy decisions when the whole country has to be taken into consideration. First we need to control the virus then we need to get people back to work and schools open

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                            #173355
                            Brian blue
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                              Sean, with respect have to disagree about Brexit, as soon as we get the Pandemic under control. (I see another 9 months) we will pick up quickly and make a success of our independence , we have the knowledge base and incentives will be put in place. I see a good future. Another year we will have proved to doubters it was the best thing for us and I can see other counties following The UK contribution will be a big hole to find for Brussells

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                              #173357
                              Adlab
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                                Brian brexit will be the worst thing to befall this country in years.

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                                #173358
                                Adlab
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                                  Three more cases. First and third choice keepers. What happens if Stefan gets it?

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                                  #173359
                                  Brian blue
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                                    Adlab…this country was great before Brexit and it will be after. Think positive and not along political agendas

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                                    #173360
                                    Adlab
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                                      Brian we just disagree!
                                      But who will be the second keeper tonight

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                                      #173361
                                      Brian blue
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                                        Adlab…if you want a good analogy think Germany and Japan. after two world war defeats they did not sit around feeling sorry for themselves, they worked there socks off and became world players again. That is the mentality we want now…just get on with it, we are no longer in the EEC but still being aggrieved about it does not get the job done. As soon as Pandemic improves let Business and enterprise be given the job of improving our status. I do not believe countries are laughing at us, certainly not amongst my European friend who only see harder times for themselves. It is easy to knock our country, plenty doing it even if they have to go back hundreds of years to say how bad the Brits were. I have never complained about the Romans, vikings or even failed attempts to engulf us in relative recent times. We all have short lives and we should make the best we can of our time on the planet

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                                        #173364
                                        Nike19
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                                          This is a mess from a work point of view. I’m being asked questions from colleagues being a Union Rep as they don’t have the answers. Company not furloughing, holidays used up for this financial year and child care issues arising with the only real option of unpaid leave.

                                          It feels more like at the moment, a giant step backwards and concerning.

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                                          #173365
                                          nine nine nine
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                                            Sean, the country voted to come out of the EU that’s democracy mate and we left with an agreement despite the best efforts of some countries to block the UK achieving that.

                                            There’s a lot of unrest in the EU currently and there’s now talk of Frexit too. The Common Market made sense but linking the economy of Germany to the likes of Greece’s economy is a very flawed strategy.

                                            Undoubtedly there have been mistakes with Covid but all Governments have been guilty of that.

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