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[Chelsea1967]

If I have no idea then neither do millions of others. Stay safe Pagan. I wish you well.

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[Pagan]

Yes the protests are justified, a man is murdered on video and it takes 4 days to arrest him, I know let’s wait and see if it gets better, well it won’t. Coronavirus ain’t colour blind that’s the problem…..Pagan

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George Floyd wasn’t murdered last year or the year before, Breonna Taylor wasn’t killed last year or the year before after being shot 8 times when plain clothes police officers incorrectly entered her house and then arrested her boyfriend for retaliating thinking they were intruders, to this day they still have not been charged, Ahmoud Albery wasnt killed last year or the year before, taking 3 months for the culprits to be charged, a woman ringing the police and falsely accusing a African American man of threatening her life didn’t happen last year or the year before. How much more do people need to take?

Oh, when Karens take a walk with their dogs off leash in the famous Bramble in NY’s Central Park, where it is clearly posted on signs that dogs MUST be leashed at all times, and someone like my brother (an avid birder) politely asks her to put her dog on the leash. pic.twitter.com/3YnzuATsDm

— Melody Cooper (@melodyMcooper) May 25, 2020

A few weeks ago there were anti lockdown protests all over Europe and America, people were having street parties on VE day, people have packed beaches when there has been good weather, the PM supported his right hand man when he was bent the rules and many more examples. People have literally stopped caring as time has progressed.

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[nine nine nine]

Pagan, this is a sensitive subject nobody on here is posting in support of racisim.

But it’s difficult to disagree that currently despite the right to protest and the need to do so its not the best time to have such massive protests because of the pandemic.

Hopefully nobody protesting is struck down by Cov19 and the protesting doesn’t adds to the spread because all lives matter.

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[Pagan]

9, I realise no one is supporting racism, but this is the the first time mass protests have gone global on a large scale, unfortunately dealing with the problem has always been put of until tomorrow, highlighting the problem cannot go down the same road…..Pagan

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[threeps]

We had a protest in Cologne yesterday. 3 or 4 thousand. Most people sitting in groups upto 6 or so with a few beers and a couple of meters space around them. #Blacklivesmatter banners, anti-Trump banners, people honking their car horns, was wonderful to see.

There’s been protests about racism before but not on this scale around the World that I can remember. I’m not sure people intended these to happen at this time, it just happened. The reason was that feeling reached a point that couldn’t be contained any longer due to recent events. People have had enough. I don’t think asking millions of people to delay their protest due to Coronavirus was ever going to work to be honest.

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[Brian blue]

Racism should be stamped out in society but mass protest is not the way to do it. In this country we have a vote and that is still a powerful weapon. In America it is different so I am not qualified to speak about this, that is for the Americans to sort out. All these protest will come at a costs and more lives, I also believe there are agendas behind them to de stabilise a country, In this country the Police have lost control in areas which means one step from anarchy and we do not, unlike America, have a strong enough Military as back up. From what I see, there are no leaders in the Protest camp,in my mind, they need one, because what we see now is fronted by people who hurt, with some justification, but just going about it in the wrong way All it will do is exactly the reverse of what they want, then everyone loose Sad times, .

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[Pagan]

Brian, having a vote is all well and good, but I’m not overly sure how a democracy benefits the minority….Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

Pagan, “this is the the first time mass protests have gone global on a large scale.” Very true Pagan and that’s primarily because everything was caught on video and aired around the world and the footage was so extremely shocking that it was the catalyst to all the worldwide protest.

The UK Government appealed for the protests to stop because of the dangers in spreading Cov19 still further across the UK but that was never going to be successful and attempting to stop the demonstrations might have been even more dangerous.

Where it all goes from here is the big question.

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[Pagan]

9, not really the fist caught on video, the Rodney King incident was, however the ability to share wasn’t there.

We can only hope for change….Pagan

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[CM]

After watching a few videos of the protest a few minutes ago. Although I understand the frustrations, the whole point has now been completely lost. Most people have been peaceful, unfortunately the minority have let them down.

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[steveosnakeeye]

sorry but some of you have some mighty short term memories!

there have been so many every few years, we had riots here after a black man was shot that spread through the country
rodney king in the 90s and literally DOZENS over just 20-30 years that have lead to huge protests, violence and disorder leading to many deaths and millions in damages

i dont think anyone agrees with it no one says protests are wrong but yes i am with 67 that these type of protests done right now are wrong and of themselves irresponsible, it could lead to many deaths and the very sad truth is none of it will make any difference just as it hasnt for so many other incidents over the years, the fact these incidents are still happening even after the US has had a black president just shows this type of ignorance and racism (for all as it works on many levels) will either never go away or take many more centuries of struggle and education to do so

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[nine nine nine]

A cross party group of MP’s needs to be set up imo to work alongside influential black leaders in the Community to sit down and revisit all the issues the black community have relevant to the UK and see what can be done to begin solving them.

Solutions won’t happen overnight but people have to have hope and a belief they are being listened to and we do need solutions and a belief from black people that they are being listened to and something will happen.

If that happens in the UK and in different circumstances around the world it will never take away the dreadful murder of George Floyd or the impact his murder has had on his family and friends but hopefully something positive might come from his tragic loss of life.

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[Pagan]

So a man of colour gets murdered by a white policeman, it not the first time and unfortunately it won’t be the last, I know let’s sit down with those affected and try and understand their issues, I’m not sure it’s them that have the issues….Pagan

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[nine nine nine]

Pagan, the UK can’t take responsibility for what happens in the US we can only take responsibility for what happens in the UK.

Racisim exists in the UK and we have to look at how we address those problems in the UK the only way to do that is to sit down and examine ways of doing that.

I was trying to look at positive ways to try and improve our racisim problems in the UK.

Like 67 I’ll leave it there now!

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[Chelsea1967]

What the protesters in America should have done from the very start is make A POINT OF SOLIDARITY and have a chain of people walk line after line black, white, black, white, black, white linking arms. Also have some protesters black and white carry the slogans Black Lives Matter, All Lives Matter. That would have really hit home. Anyone not willing to do that clearly should not be there. That would be a VERY powerful statement for mine to the people and the Governments of the world.

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[Anonymous]

#nolivesmatter… deal with it.

If any life mattered, we wouldn’t have fought two world wars killing more than 100 million people, that means some lives are worth more than others, American folly in the Middle East kills brown folk all the time, drone programs in Pakistan and Afghanistan wipe out entire families, non one complains, after 6 millions Jews were exterminated, we still have the virus of ethnic cleansing in various shapes around the world, the UK has been shut down on the pretext of protecting its health service and staff from people’s ill health, exactly what it is designed for… 40 million have been made redundant in the United States millions will be in the same position in the UK, so companies dont care about you either, just their bottom line… that minimum living wage, comes from minimum substance concepts developed when we had mills and were burning our forests down, Jeremy Bentham brought the idea in from Russia, to make a work force more healthy so you could earn more and be more productive… those rain forests dont cut and burn themselves down, no do we moan about the industrial slaughter of animals and or the draining of oceans of fish… these are not lives, rather food.

Banks want you in debt so you own them over the course of your entire life, insurance companies want your money so in death you can get better treatment or better casket to the next life….

And of course, mass protest during a pandemic means that a life actually matters so long as you are seen to be doing the right thing when all you really need to do in this day and age is simply post a hashtag and meaningless phrase following it.

The idiots on the streets over the weekend clearly haven’t heard of equalities act. If you are a protestor, read it, see if any of it applies and if it doesn’t, lobby the government to change it. Dont throw bikes at police horses because as far as I can tell horses aint racist or part of the problem. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/equality-act-2010-guidance

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[Anonymous]

Yes minorities everywhere suffer one way or another, in other coninents like Asia. Africa, South America whites and my people are the victims.

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[Brian blue]

Pagan…this is why the vote is important. The majority wins every time as it should do. The minority’s need to put forward a manifesto that would give them a majority but without the violence and destruction we are witnessing. This will end in bloodshed and there will be no winners only losers . At points in history the indegineous people of this country were slaves, do we now start campaigns to write the wrong? Racism can be solved in this country where it is found but it cannot be done by mob rule and disrespect of the millions of British people that want to live in a peaceful country again, we have fought for that freedom and we share that freedom. The culture of hate and violence must be conquered and I would want the Government to do everything possible to enforce laws to protect our country and well being of all its population

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[nine nine nine]

BP to cut 10,000 jobs worldwide due to the Pandemic 15% of its workforce, with 2,000 job losses in the UK.

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