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  • #197175
    nine nine nine
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      Simple solution is to strip the National Anthem from show piece games that Liverpool might be involved in, in the future and deny their fans the opportunity to boo the National Anthem.

      Credit to Liverpool Captain Jordan Henderson though for singing the National Anthem with such vigour.

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      #197176
      threeps
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        By that logic nine you’ll need to ban national anthems being played at all England internationals as England fans repeatedly boo the opposition anthems.

        Or is it only offensive when it’s your anthem?

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        #197177
        sean the sailor
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          Agree with that threeps. Problem is adlab looks for every excuse under the sun when city lose. It’s only a friendly yet it’s seriously bothering him. The most unobjective and hypocritical poster I’ve ever come across. This everyone is againest city rubbish we read constantly is boring.

          The media love pep and city and no one is writing city off. I cannot fathom why he constantly moans instead of enjoying this great city team.

          Klopp is no saint on the line but either is pep.

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          #197179
          nine nine nine
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            Threeps,I don’t like to hear England fans boo the National Anthems of other countries teams either there should be respect for all National Anthems but it’s particularly offensive though when English people are booing their own national anthem this is the third time now in a matter of months it has happened and imo it reflects badly on Liverpool FC and personally I don’t want to see it continue which is why if it was up to me I would leave the National Anthem out of any of Liverpool’s future prestige games where the Anthem would normally be played.

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            #197181
            nine nine nine
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              The Referee in the Sunderland v Coventry game is wearing a hair band.

              First time I’ve seen that.😊

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              #197182
              sean the sailor
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                Ye gas nine. Good game mate

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                #197183
                threeps
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                  Disagree nine# booing your own anthem is obviously a way of showing emotion because of a particular situation which I’ve explained before. You take offence because that particular situation does not affect you so you cannot understand how the liverpool fans are feeling or why. Maybe you think they are just being offensive for the hell of it which is incorrect and ignorant for anyone that thinks that way.

                  England fans are being offensive for the hell of it or do actually harbour genuine hate against other nations as we saw versus Germany recently. That is a far bigger problem than a group wanting to protest against a situation. Even worse is the vile chanting from Manchester clubs (and others, but mostly them) which again is a serious indication of hate and twattish behaviour.

                  Far worst situations then offending some old dear with a crown or the nation they live in. There’s bigger issues here.

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                  #197184
                  nine nine nine
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                    “Maybe you think they are just being offensive for the hell of it which is incorrect and ignorant for anyone that thinks that way.”

                    Rest assured I’m fully aware as to why the Liverpool fans are booing the National Anthem I just don’t think it’s right to boo your own Anthem.

                    We will never agree on this threeps so I suggest we leave it there.

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                    #197187
                    Adlab
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                      Threeps booing the Anthem is booing the Queen.
                      Poor show

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                      #197188
                      threeps
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                        Not condoning it Adlab just trying to put it into perspective and explain why. What City fans did during the game was far worse. But I think I am talking with a bunch of old royalists so probably best to leave it, just try and remember not everyone respects the queen or the establishment and many have good reason.

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                        #197189
                        Nike19
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                          The media never change do they?! What harsh questioning towards Pep on Haaland after merely 1 game in. This could have gone either way and it could have been Nunez on the end of a disappointing performance.

                          Hasty unsurprisingly in being judgemental. I think unfortunately the knives will be out until he starts firing quickly on all cylinders.

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                          #197210
                          sean the sailor
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                            Spot on threeps, not every English person is a fan of the royals .just have to look at how they protect their own. Scandalous stuff

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                            #197214
                            cityboy54
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                              I be honest.. I hate losing to Liverpool what ever the game …Liverpool wanted more they looked sharper than us….pep didn’t like what he saw either

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                              #197216
                              Nike19
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                                Maybe then, the best solution is leave the anthems only for England games. The FA Cup Final itself compared to what I’ve been used to in the past isn’t what it used to be.

                                I think it’s losing it’s way and the relationship isn’t what it used to be with fans of the Working Class Background.

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                                #197218
                                Brian blue
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                                  Respectfully disagree Nike..I came up in an age and before that, when there were real working class fans, without benefits and the atmosphere and respect was real for everyone single one. There is no excuse for lack of respect but these days everybody wants everything to there where of thinking…
                                  The past has gone, you are right Nike…we are poorer for it and it will be the fans that ruin it, not owners, clubs..the fans because on the path it is going it will shut clubs dow, even at smaller clubs the cost of managing a crowd has become a factor, in fact, if fans behaved there would be no need for this expenditure at all and everyone can have a good time…..wishful thinking on my part but I guess you know what I mean. That is why I enjoyed the Ladies game so much, a big crowd, all respectful of the occasion, no hooligan element but a family one, we need to get the hooligans out and the families in, at a sensible price level to encourage them to be regulars.

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                                  #197220
                                  Nike19
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                                    Brian, I wholeheartedly agree with all your points. It’s the ideal from what we’ve refreshingly seen come from the women’s game that’s a huge void in the men’s.

                                    The attitude and behaviour is changing and fans too. My reason for my suggestion really was reluctant and purely for the sake of trying to take away the aggravation that’s been caused. It’s a lot peaceful and less stress to just get on with the game.

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                                    #197221
                                    Adlab
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                                      Nike in the distant past the crowd was different
                                      No prawn sandwich brigade no hangers on etc.
                                      Thr players were different too. I remember going to one match catching the bid after school. On that bus..City player Neil Young. One of our key players
                                      No Bentley No Porche etc.
                                      Timed are just different. For the worse?

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                                      #197223
                                      Nike19
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                                        All changed Adlab. I agree.

                                        It will be different to what we perceive, but to the youngsters now, it’s their time and this is probably normality to them.

                                        Hard to adjust to the evolution. As long as we’re still enjoying our team compete for the top prizes, then the flame of that will remain ignited which in essence is what counts.

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                                        #197226
                                        Mikus LFC
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                                          Adlab, we’ve let our culture, traditions and communities go. How many people read for pleasure now? How many go to the theatre? How many people learn to play instruments? We’ve become increasingly atomised and social media and the internet have become the new go to places where we worship the celebrity and watching sport fills the void and we descend into tribes. Add to that general societal decay and we are where we are.

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                                          #197228
                                          Nike19
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                                            The sport is used as a platform money-making machine more than ever. There are you-tube multi-channels created because they know they could potentially make money by the amount of views and subscriptions. And yes, more social media involved so it feels essentially like a gold-fish bowl and we’ve been swayed into it.

                                            It’s all true on the different physical activity that was once more immersed in is lesser and lesser (so it’s perceived to be). Some responsibility lies towards the central government and the lack of funding distributed to communities to enable foundations and facilities. With that in mind, there is always a nearby park and years ago, I would be playing for hours; this before the days of any Internet.

                                            The sport’s no longer male dominated too as it’s more diverse than ever and more accessible.

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