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Bundesliga runners-up RB Leipzig and Austrian champions Red Bull Salzburg have been given a lifeline as UEFA’s governing body has ruled they’ll both be eligible to compete in next season’s Champions League.
UEFA’s rules prevent multiple teams from the same ownership from playing in the Champions League, but Leipzig and Salzburg presented a unique wrinkle for UEFA. Both teams are owned by the Red Bull conglomerate, despite operating under different management and in separate leagues. After looking into the issue, UEFA’s concerns look to have been met, and both clubs will be allowed to compete in UCL for 2017/18.
A UEFA statement read: “Following a thorough investigation, and further to several important governance and structural changes made by the clubs (regarding corporate matters, financing, personnel, sponsorship arrangements, etc.), the CFCB deemed that no individual or legal entity had anymore a decisive influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition.”. ??????
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The City result was always going to happen at some point, Correct what went wrong and move on.
As to empty City seats, there are probably a number of reasons for this but I can go back a long way, City have always had a good solid chore of supporters but in numbers have not been as big as other clubs, there are also reasons for that as well, however, I do not see any point to this latest theme for readership by the media, it is what it is. Like so many clubs the infiltration of Corporate and Hospitality membership dilutes the atmoshphere in my opinion. It all comes down to individual choice, City cannot be blamed or change that. You have to live with what you have but for fans or writers of other clubs they will eventually feel the same effect in the future. Nothing is certain anymore in football. Any succes to day….enjoy it…In the near future, Pep, Klopp, Mourinho will be gone…we can see that now…so enjoy the times now.My final point is that some fans simply cannot afford the number of games being played now and that is fact, it is not just the ticket price but travel and food as well. If you can afford it, good for you
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PS to last…I also thing City’s Tunnel club does not help the atmosphere to ordinary fans to see a bunch of people paraded on the edge of the pitch, looking around as if they have just scored a goal and a “look at me” attitude. Do ordinary fans wish it was them? I doubt it..they need to get into the crowd with voice. I am not jealous of the fact just the question asked of fans to give better atmosphere…this does the reverse
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Great posts as always Brian?
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Evening chaps, looking forward to tomorrow games. I’m over the midweek debacle . Luckily I was one of the many empty seats as I had to work late. First CL game I have missed for about 4 seasons i think. Felt really guilty to be honest. Below is my take on the empty seats which is down to a number of factors.
The first one is that Lyon wernt that an attractive game. If it had been Barca I have no doubt it would have sold out. Have some fans got a bit piccy with the games they attend having been spoilt and a bit complacent with the quality of recent years? Most definitely.
Secondly Brian is right we don’t have the fan base that United or Liverpool have. I think we have a loyal core support probably closer to 40k than 30k these years. We also have several thousand fans who travel big distances and they just can’t be arsed taking days off for a game vs Lyon.
Thirdly getting to and from the Etihad is a nightmare. Transport infrastructure to and from the Etihad is woeful. I travel on train for about 18miles rather than drive in like I used to on a mid week games. 3 seasons ago it was regularly taking me two and a half to three hours to drive in!
Forthly there is a certain apathy from City fans in general towards UEFA they don’t like us as the rich new boys on the block they have fined us and banned our fans for no reason at all in Moscow. Also many including myself rightly or wrongly see it as a competition a step down from the PL.
Finally we don’t have a compulsory cup scheme ie to be a season ticket holder you don’t have to buy Europe tickets. I believe some clubs like United?? Make you buy into the cup scheme to get a season ticket?
It is also expensive as Brian’s states.
I would also add that we are not alone in not selling out group stage CL games. Chelsea didn’t regularly a few years ago. United don’t, I have a mate who’s a red and he says OT is regularly 25k short on a CL midweek game. And its been published in media outlets now and again. Continental games also rearly sell out at this stage from what I can make out?
I admit it looks a bit poor. But I’m not that bothered by it , I followed City through some really bad times when we still had 30k watching awful football. So I’m not that fussed when several thousand newcomers don’t turn up.
Ps Brian do you see Doris and Olga the 102 and 97 yr old sisters at Fulham who have been ST holders since the 1930s? Do you know them or did you possibly date them?? ?
I will leave you with this little fact. Olga and Doris watched City in an English record crowd for a club game outside Wembley. 84569 vs Stoke in 1934 in the Cup. A record that still stands today.
Cheers
Jim
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I was there in Platt Lane when we had 8000 v Swindon and mike Summerbee scored for Swindon and we lost. Today is just magic in comparison. How I wish my late father could have seen this team!
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Interesting post, Jim. As a matter of interest, how much were the CL tickets on Wed? We paid £42 on the Kop and were dear in other areas of the ground. I’m genuinely not trying to score points here…it all seems a little pointless to do that….but I am interested as to why City don’t fill their ground more. I live and work in Manchester and actually know more people who are regulars at the Etihad than at Old Trafford! But you say many are more in to the PL than the CL, and yet the same seems to apply in league games as well.
It is irrelevant,I know, but I think it is symptomatic of football nowadays. If City can’t fill their ground when they are regularly winning and playing unbelievable football and have some of the world’s best players playing for them and they are one of the cheapest tickets around in the Premises, then football should be very worried, in my opinion.
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Hightown, I don’t know depends on where you sit. Typically ive been paying £35 in the family stand the past few seasons. Some tickets are more expensive in the CB stand, some are cheaper up in the gods. I had a quick look after my post yesterday and found this table. Clearly it shows that Lyon was a bit of a one off. Last season our average CL attendances were much higher.
https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/champions-league-2017-2018/1/
Cheers Jim
Ps can I also add that we only really don’t sell out champions league group stages and midweek league cup games. The vast majority of PL games and especially weekend ones are sold out. And there are several thousand on the ST waiting list. My guess is there isnt enough to justify extending the north stand yet.
But you are right, it’s not just City that has this problem. I could post links about United having the same issue for midweek games. Even Liverpool didn’t sell out all their CL group games at Anfield last season. Out of interest i checked and you were about 6k short of capacity for one game. And Liverpool and United have by far the biggest fan bases in the country and compulsory cup scheme certainly for United. So some fans are forces to buy cup tickets and still don’t bother to go.
Football is very expensive these days and fans are placed last as always. Look at the twenty is plenty campaign. The PL just couldn’t except that and had to cap it at 30! It’s pathetic really.
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As Jim says the Lyon game wasn’t a crucial must see CL game and football fans only have so much money to spend. The game was also live on TV at home or in the Pub.
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Jim.. No I did not know or date them but they have been brought up well. I view this as a media topic because they cannot find anything constructive to right about I have no problem with other teams having a bigger following, City are always special to me whatever division I have been in big attendances and small ones, does not bother me. It is possible to take the view of a Utd Senior official who stated they are not reliant on the number of fans because of there business structure.
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Adlab@7:22pm yesterday. Great post mate.
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