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  • #37925
    nine nine nine
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      The VAR decisions were correct but VAR has changed football for ever.

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      #37926
      nine nine nine
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        Commiserations to the City lads that was really cruel and I know from bitter experience how you lads must feel. Still a lot to play for though lads chins up.

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        #37927
        Editor
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          Nil, I get that. I’m just asking you to consider the emotions City fans are going through right now and it’s quite easy to get wound up by your
          “YESSSSSSS”, “Lol love it” type posts

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          #37928
          Anonymous

            Honestly… If that happened against us, I’d be so incredibly angry. I don’t think it’s a case of VAR getting it wrong (another look wouldnt hurt) but just the agony of celebrating “too soon” that comes with a VAR call like this.

            It’s gonna take a long time but they will have to speed up the calls. usually it’s not a problem for me but they left City thinking they had done it for just TOO LONG and it’s unacceptable.

            I was going for Spurs but I’m not a masochist. ****ing hell.

            Now , as for the PL, I think City will definitely play better against Spurs and it’s a shame that that is the first PL game for them, so you could argue that it might galvanise them but ya, I think we’ve definitely got to consider the deflation factor (as Mikus said better than myself).

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            #37929
            Editor
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              Agree Mak. Horrible to go through those emotions and have it snatched away. It really does completely change the game completely. Are celebrations going to be toned down in high pressure situations for fear of VAR overturning decisions?

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              #37930
              Anonymous

                I was wondering the same but didnt want to breach the topic, maybe because Im pro-VAR but it’s food for thought for sure.

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                #37931
                sean the sailor
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                  Have to agree. Horrible way to lose.

                  Sorry for city lads on here.

                  Adlab you have been screaming for var. right decision but crazy stuff

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                  #37932
                  sean the sailor
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                    Always fancied spurs to score there. Only team that had the balks to attack city

                    That’s such a big win for them

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                    #37933
                    nine nine nine
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                      You gotta feel for all the City fans tonight the decision was correct but as a football fan you have to feel for rival fans in that situation they suddenly had the win snatched away from them because to the naked eye nobody would have spotted the offside. Football is a cruel game sometimes.

                      But well done to Spurs scoring 3 goals at the Etihad takes some doing.

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                      #37935
                      Nike19
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                        Cheers Ed,

                        Lol, man I just hate that type of topsy-turvy-basketball football.

                        That’s why I made a reference to Arsenal-Leicester, Opening Day, 17/18. Like this game, I didn’t know what to believe at the best of times, Tonight. Still trying to take it all in, it’s madness.

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                        #37936
                        Mikus LFC
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                          Regarding the VAR decision for the last goal. It’s a funny one isn’t it? Had there been no VAR, a lot of the pundits would probably forgive the officials for not picking up a very narrow offside. And as the cliche went, you give the attacker the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore. Now the pundits are all saying how wonderful it is that justice has been served.

                          I guess my point here – to what depth and detail do we judge offside? The game was designed to be officiated “by the eye”. Now that is no longer the case. Is that in the “spirit” of the game? Discuss.

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                          #37937
                          Nike19
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                            To me, I see VAR as what many associated with the game have cried out for, for 2 Decades. It’s always been the talk of Phone-Ins, Forums, et al.

                            Granted, I would have been livid/distraught had that happened to Liverpool.

                            The standard of Refereeing as far as the Prem goes is in need of improvement.

                            With that in mind, in some people’s eyes, it simply might not stand as fool-proof and something that will please everyone if it’s not their wishful outcome.

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                            #37938
                            nine nine nine
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                              Credit to Pep for his post match interview that was a tough one to have to do considering the circumstances. Big job for Pep now to raise his players to try and do a domestic treble. I think City’s next two games will probably decide the outcome of the title and they will need to win both.

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                              #37941
                              nine nine nine
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                                The game was designed to be officiated “by the eye”. Now that is no longer the case. Is that in the “spirit” of the game? Discuss.

                                Good point Mikus I guess the game has lost emotional moments you can’t even really celebrate goals with confidence now in case VAR rules them out but VAR will get more decisions right than wrong but then there’s the time it takes too.

                                It’s fairer but it has taken something from the game too and imagine VAR every week in the PL across 10 PL games every week it’s going to take some getting used to.

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                                #37942
                                Anonymous

                                  Mikus, in the vast majority of cases, I think VAR shows it’s worth but here, I’m not as convinced. We’ve spoken enough about the negatives that this call had on the match and people involved but even so, ultimately it was the correct call. It has to be worth something. It’s just that it did come at a bit of a cost in terms of the spirit of the game alright… I still think it’s worth it but it’s definitely no poster for VAR.

                                  It was very harsh on City’s emotions for a few minutes but the lasting effect is that the correct side has gone through to the next stages. City can feel hard done by for how it happened but had VAR not been there , Spurs would have felt hard done by.

                                  I think it’s worth noting how used to horrible mistakes ruining results, previously. So on the whole I am still in favour of this but i think we’ve got to add a lighting system on the pitch. Like if the corner flags had red lights n them that light up when VAR has begun to process a call. Then you’re back to the muted celebration situation… I’m sure we can improve t, like anything that mankind has invented, it gets perfected slowly over time.

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                                  #37943
                                  Nike19
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                                    People might be critical towards VAR, but place tonight’s example to our Domestic League, and think about the very fine margins;

                                    Bad Refereeing decisions has otherwise costed teams fighting Relegation, and those striving for something at the top end of the table.

                                    Plus citing Man City as an example in relation to Swansea and the FA Cup Tie, one could argue the case for VAR.

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                                    #37945
                                    Mikus LFC
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                                      Mak, like the idea of a lighting system. Surely with the technology and people employed in the VAR office, they can quicken up the process? On the point on the narrowness of the decision however, as I say, if it came down to the tiniest fraction is that really in the spirit of things? There will be cases where it will be even narrower than tonight’s call. I just think some leeway should be given in such situations or else football could get pretty dull with lots of reviews and decisions. And the winner in such cases will be VAR but football won’t be the winner, if you get my drift.

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                                      #37948
                                      Nike19
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                                        If only our 11 millimetres was given some though against the density of the white line 😀 😉

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                                        #37949
                                        nine nine nine
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                                          Anyway I think we can look forward to two Super Semi Finals with lots of great football played across both legs of them.

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                                          #37950
                                          Mikus LFC
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                                            Nil, I think if we’re talking about margins over the goal line, you can be exact about that. But if we’re pulling up attackers because, say their hand is offside, that’s getting a bit daft.

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