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    nine nine nine
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      Difficult to disagree with too much of that Jim.

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      #10737
      Adlab
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        And that is why no English referees in tbe World Cup, says it all. Not good enough.

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        #10743
        nine nine nine
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          Adlab the World Cup list of potential Referees was drawn up two years ago Mark Clattenburg was on it but he’s since taken early retirement Michael Oliver should be on it but he arrived to late on the Refereeing scene to be considered.

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          #10764
          Big Jim
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            Zaha escapes ban for his dive yesterday. Who the **** is on this panel what a complete joke. Better not to have these clueless brainless dimwits who either know nowt about football or who have an agenda? My 12 year old can decide better than these prats.

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            #10765
            nine nine nine
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              Jim, some big names on the panel Terry Butcher, Lee Dixon and Danny Murphy . That trio are joined by fellow ex-England internationals Trevor Sinclair and Chris Powell in a Football Association pool that will review suspected cases of what is being called β€˜successful deception of a match official’.

              It’s a mystery why they are not bringing a few more obvious cases forward personally I think the FA have to go for a majority decision rather than a unanimous decision and the same panel sitting weekly to get some consistency.

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              #10768
              Pagan
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                999, jobs for the boys again, the ones that also do punditry and justify going down with the merest of contact.

                Successful deception of a match official, so if it’s unsuccessful it doesn’t get reviewed, that’s the problem straight away, all attempts at it need dealing with in the same way…Pagan

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                #10769
                Big Jim
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                  I’m sorry but the panel doesn’t need big names who are clearly poorly influenced by their own experiences in the PL. It needs completely fresh faced people possibly from other sports. Not these jokers who sent up to the job and are protecting their own. Tbh I’m sick of the FA they are are complete joke from top to bottom.

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                  #10770
                  Pagan
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                    Jim, would be good to see people from other contact sports like rugby review the way footballers throw themselves to the ground, would think some of their comments wouldn’t be too PC though….Pagan

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                    #10772
                    Nike19
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                      The flip side and the potential adverse effects we could or already are facing is those genuinely fouled in the box won’t be awarded a Penalty.

                      This just seems to me to be an unresolved loop.

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                      #10777
                      nine nine nine
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                        Pagan, the panel is always made up of one ex Ref, one ex Manager and one ex player.

                        This is the first season of attempting to punish diving in the box to get a penalty awarded and diving to get a player sent off it’s not working perfectly at the moment but you can’t go from nothing to wanting every aspect of trying to decieve the Referee covered it has to start somewhere and become effective first before you roll it out into other areas.

                        I think if the unanimous decision was changed to a majority decision we would see a lot more players being charged.

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                        #10779
                        Pagan
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                          9, I was referring to the successful bit, if the ref books a player (and I think it should be a straight red) then that also should be reviewed, not really on that there’s a different punishment for the same offence….Paganand

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                          #10781
                          Big Jim
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                            Nine you must also surely have to agree that at the moment the so called expert panel are clearly siding with the divers. All this nonsense about ‘there was contact so he had a right to go down’ all this does is justify cheating. The panel are making things worse imo. They are clearly incompetent just like the buffoons in the FA. Bring in some rugby players to decide. That would sort a few things out. Increase the ban to five games.

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                            #10782
                            Nike19
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                              When I’ve watched games on BT Sport for example, they have Howard Webb in the studio and he goes out of his way to explain rationally without any bias.

                              That’s what I would like to see more, in our game. Managers I’m sure get fed up of chewing the ears of the officials and landing themselves some kind of a sanction.

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                              #10786
                              nine nine nine
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                                Pagan, agree with that mate Puncheon’s yellow card should be converted to Red but I guess understandably the Football authorities are loathe to re Ref games.

                                It happened with Ben Thatcher whose four arm smash originally got him a yellow card which was latter extended to a 6 match ban by the FA but that was such an extreme challenge.

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                                #10787
                                nine nine nine
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                                  Jim, I’m not sure that’s true mate several diving investigations have been judged 2-1 against the diver but he couldn’t be punished because of the unanimous decision rule convert that to a majority decision and a lot more will end up being punished.

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                                  #10788
                                  Big Jim
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                                    Nine playing devils asvocate but why was Thatchers challenge worse than Puncheon’s. Interesting that both were done well off the ball. One was to the head. The other was a deliberate attack on Debrynes legs that could easily have ended his season. No attempt to play The ball. The FA have the power to overturn a yellow, but chicken out as they do not want to embarrass the officials. It’s nothing whatsoever to do with not wanting to reref games imo.

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                                    #10789
                                    Big Jim
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                                      Nine several clear dives have not even been adjudicated on. Why is that. Puncheons from yesterday?? Also the fact that the rules state that the dive has to result in a pen or a player sent off is clearly saying its ok to five in other instances.

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                                      #10790
                                      nine nine nine
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                                        Jim, they are only reviewing dives for a penalty and dives which result in a player getting sent off.

                                        It’s pointless to highlight other dives in other situations they are not part of the new rules.

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                                        #10791
                                        Big Jim
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                                          Also nine, City rightly banned Thatcher before the FA ban. And also fined him.

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                                          #10792
                                          Big Jim
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                                            Exactly nine. By their very nature, the rules actually condone diving in other situations. Totally ridiculous.

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