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Ah I know giblues, UEFA are as corrupt as they come mate.
I just donโt think they are trying to stitch city up.
This is all of cities making if true
If city are innocent then it will all come out
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Have Man City broken the rules? probably
Was the evidence obtained legally? Probably not
Will that make a difference? Possibly
What I will say though is the way UEFA have handled the case is very similar to the Blackadder episode featuring โSpeckled Jimโ and the โFlanders Pigeon Murdererโ
……Pagan
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Pagan, “Speckled Jimโ and the โFlanders Pigeon Murdererโ Ha, ha brilliant stuff buddie.?
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Bad analogy gents, maybe I’m wrong and my memory is going, but pretty sure Blackadder was actually 100% completely and utterly guilty of all charges… ๐
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Sean and Mak, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this conspiracy thing lads. I still think there’s something in it (and no I don’t believe in Father Christmas) but obviously can’t prove anything, all circumstantial at this point.
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Chuckles the analogy was UEFA and Melchiot, not Blackadder and Man City, however depending on the CAS outcome both may be good…..Pagan
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That’s the thing, Peggy, if City are as guilty as “The Flanders Pigeon Murderer”, then does it really matter if Colonel Melchoit found them guilty?? Even if he was a bit of an Arsenal while doing it? I mean, it sounds like if Rumpole or that sexy one from L.A. Law found them guilty, then nobody would be sulking… ๐
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Ok gjblues but if the CAS appeal fails, will they be in on it, leaving you looking for a higher authority, or will you accept their decision? Say it now before they make up their minds.
I get the feeling that City fans would have respected UEFA had they come out backing City, saying that absolutely nothing wrong had been done.
I was quite sympathetic last night about this but after seeing the reaction, that’s melted away. 13/14 is a distant memory to me now but at the time, if it had come to light that City had cheated their way to the title, I’d have demanded justice and that the PL be awarded to us. Here we are now and it has come to light, City are being punished by UEFA currently and it’s the City fans crying foul and calling “conspiracy!“.
Just an absolutely shameful response to being found guilty, not being accused. GUILTY. You may yet get off like O.J. but he’s not innocent either.
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Thatโs the thing though Chuckles, itโs not necessarily if your guilty or not thatโs important, itโs was the correct process followed, the law as they say is an ass….Pagan
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Not going to disagree with you on that comment, Peggy,… but if your best defense on “being” found guilty is on “how” you were found guilty, rather than taking the very logical route of proving your innocence, then I reckon you’ve got some serious problems!
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Ok Mak, apologies for not making this absolutely clear but I’m NOT connecting the conspiracy thing with or as an excuse for breaking a UEFA rule – I feel the two are separate issues.
I’ve already stated/accepted that we’ve been found guilty of breaking the rule and punished accordingly. UEFA have acted as rule maker, judge, jury and executioner and therefore, as a result, City now have the right to appeal. Having supported MY club through thick, thin and even thinner for around 50 years, I would want them to take the appeal as far as possible but (again, as I’ve previously stated) not on the grounds of a technicality (hacked emails), only if they have hard evidence that the rule was not broken.I still think there is something in the conspiracy theory – you only have to look at some of the diabolical (pre-VAR) decisions that have gone against us in CL games – three of them in the tie against you guys a couple of years ago. (not going to comment any further on this))
I also have an issue with UEFAs stated reasons as to why the rule was introduced in the first place. I’m not going over that again but it’s detailed in one of my previous posts on this tread.
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Chuckles, but if that were the case no one would need lawyers??……Pagan
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To be fair until we get to CAS none of us know whether City’s only defence will be of how they were found guilty. Everything in respect of this case and City’s defence rests on what is presented to CAS by both sides and CAS’s evaluation of the evidence from both parties.
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Peggy… it’s the old age questions, which came first? The lawyer or the lawsuit??
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Sweddy Eddy & gjblues-Sorry fellas,I meant that comment tongue in cheek[albeit not funny, I know],but Iam against City as an institution being punished.I was against Liverpool being punished as a collective after the Heysel tragedy.Back then Liverpool players took no part in causing the tragedy,and neither have City players & the manager done anything wrong,it was a few people @ the top & the lawyers.
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Another informative piece about this… City better win it this year I reckon!
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Chuckles, obviously it was the lawyer, other wise how would they know what size to make the suit…..Pagan
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The conspiracy argument is amusing
I canโt see city or their owners convincing anybody that there are others who are even more corrupt
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Gjblues, we had plenty of calls go against us in the last seasons too and I’ll tell you, we didn’t need help agsinst you in the CL. No offense but this conspiracy stuff is nonsense.
You’ve be rational in your post before that point. If I were you I’d get back on that track. Conspiracies are not for thinking types, generally.
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Nine, you’re talking as if nothing has been decided until CAS take a look. That’s how pretty much all your posts on this read. Well, it has been decided. They’ve been found to be in breach of the rules, by the authorities that made them.
Do you not acknowledge he authority of UEFA?
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