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  • #70051
    threeps
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      Tugay, if that was the case why has there been a lengthy investigation and subsequent ban for city? If City are living within there means then surely theres no problem?

      Apologies gj, I didn’t recheck the posts that I read from last night.

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      #70052
      maverick1973
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        PSG and City are not very rich & do live beyond their means,they have very rich owners.

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        #70053
        Tugay is God
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          I’m giving you the reasons why it was introduced, not what it ended up becoming.

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          #70054
          maverick1973
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            srd79-I already have switched my support,its between Molde FC & Malmo FC now,you Vi-king of baconmuching.What a peasure it is supporting these 2 giants of footballing world!

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            #70059
            gjblues
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              Threeps, no worries mate.
              Tugay is correct though, UEFA introduced FFP in 2009. ‘Smokescreen’ or not, it was brought in, as they say, to help prevent the likes of the Portsmouth and Leeds United situations occurring again.
              https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/protecting-the-game/financial-fair-play/
              The fact it was introduced shortly after the City and PSG buy-outs is more than coincidence, imo.

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              #70062
              srd79
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                Mav, those two giants are still dwarfed by the mighty AGF. And you can buy the best sausages at their stadium ?

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                #70065
                Anonymous

                  Adlab, nobody from the dailymail has any respect as a journalist and neither do they “tell it like it is”.

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                  #70071
                  Anonymous

                    Brian, City have already been found guilty by the sporting body and I think it would be best for you to accept it. The CAS is only an avenue of appeal. Its really looking like City have this as one last chance to muddy the waters.

                    If it’s correct that City are going to the CAS on the basis that “we are innocent because the smoking gun was found illegally” then it’s best to step away from defending the guilty party.

                    I really hope City fans take this misguided anger and paranoia thats focused towards UEFA and turn it on their clubs owners, for twice breaching the rules.

                    We have to get past this idea that City are innocent until proven guilty. The process is complete. They are guilty, ee just don’t know the details.

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                    #70074
                    nine nine nine
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                      Martin Samuels is a highly respected sports journalists as the awards achieved in his career demonstrate.

                      Sports Writer of the Year, What the Papers Say awards (2002)[7]
                      Sports Writer of the Year, What the Papers Say awards (2005)[8]
                      Sports Writer of the Year, What the Papers Say awards (2006)[9]
                      Sports Writer of the Year, Sports Journalists’ Association of Great Britain (2005)
                      Sports Writer of the Year, Sports Journalists’ Association of Great Britain (2006)
                      Sports Writer of the Year, Sports Journalists’ Association of Great Britain (2007)
                      Sports Journalist of the Year, Sports Journalists’ Association of Great Britain, 2010
                      Sports Journalist of the Year, Sports Journalists’ Association of Great Britain, 2013
                      Sports Journalist of the Year, British Press Awards (2008)[10]
                      Sports Journalist of the Year, British Press Awards (2013)
                      Sports Commentator of the Year at the Editorial Intelligence Comment Awards in 2014

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                      #70075
                      nine nine nine
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                        City have been found guilty by UEFA of breaking FFP rules but the end game will only be decided at the Court of Arbitration of Sport.

                        “According to article 57 of the FIFA Statutes, FIFA recognises the independent Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) with headquarters in Lausanne (Switzerland) to resolve disputes between FIFA, member associations, confederations, leagues, clubs, players, officials, intermediaries and licensed match agents.

                        The provisions of the CAS Code of Sports-related Arbitration apply to the proceedings. CAS primarily applies the various regulations of FIFA and, additionally, Swiss law.

                        The jurisdiction of CAS is defined in article 58 of the FIFA Statutes, whereby appeals against final decisions passed by FIFAโ€™s legal bodies and against decisions passed by confederations, member associations or leagues must be lodged with CAS within 21 days of notification of the decision in question.”

                        I can’t see anything wrong with some City fans saying they won’t comment further until after the case has been heard by CAS.

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                        #70078
                        Anonymous

                          Nine, you can post pages of that but as long as they are writing fir the dailymail, it’s meaningless to me. It’s a rag ans nothing more. Do you want to show me the awards that the paper won to prove otherwise?

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                          #70079
                          sean the sailor
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                            Nine, itโ€™s clear city have done something wrong. Itโ€™s not the first time. Why are people making excuses for them? They have tried to abuse the system.

                            I donโ€™t get it at all. If it was my club I would be coming up with excuses. Iโ€™d be disappointed with my club

                            Itโ€™s bullshit that UEFA are out to get them

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                            #70080
                            Anonymous

                              Nine why are you copying in text about UEFA accepting CAS jurisdiction? Did I dispute that? No I didn’t.

                              My point is that people are talking as if its “too early to tell” but its not. Court is over, the jury have given their verdict and the judge has sentenced the guilty party.

                              All thats happening is now you’re off to another court to find a way out and from what we are hearing, its on a basis of technicality, not innocence.

                              City are guilty and now we might see thr suspended fines from the previous time becoming active.

                              Any other dailymail conspiracy rubbish for me lads? I love hearing about how it isnt.

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                              #70081
                              maverick1973
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                                srd79-Who are AGF?Is it Brondby??? Now you prefer sausages to bacon?

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                                #70082
                                nine nine nine
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                                  Totally agree with you Sean personally I think your post below summarises it perfectly

                                  “Itโ€™s very simple. If city have breached the rules then they should be punished

                                  If they havenโ€™t then thereโ€™s nothing to worry about and the ruling will be over turned on appeal.”

                                  Personally I think the whole thing is quite complex but I would be surprised if City were totally cleared by CAS but I’m not going to pre judge the outcome.

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                                  #70087
                                  sean the sailor
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                                    Agree nine but somethings not right and we all know it

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                                    #70089
                                    gjblues
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                                      “Itโ€™s bullshit that UEFA are out to get them”
                                      Sean, you being a ‘man of the world’ and all that ???, I don’t believe for one minute that you think that sort of thing can’t go on.

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                                      #70090
                                      Anonymous

                                        I dunno Nine, I wouldn’t want to pre-judge the situation just because the CAS have heard an appeal. Surely we should hold judgment until it gets to the European court of justice?

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                                        #70091
                                        Anonymous

                                          gjblues, give over with the conspiracy nonsense. You and I know that City have been doping. They’ve been caught, for the 2nd time might I add.

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                                          #70093
                                          nine nine nine
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                                            Sean, “Agree nine but somethings not right” is exactly why I said “Personally I think the whole thing is quite complex but I would be surprised if City were totally cleared by CAS”.

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