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HH, brilliant! Everyone is happy then ?
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I really can’t say I’m surprised by this the way City have been treated by UEFA over the last few years. You only have to look at some of the diabolical (pre-VAR) decisions in CL games.
It’s also hard to believe that (joke) rules, introduced by the previous (proven) corrupt UEFA hierarchy can now carry any credence.
UEFA still as bent as ever, now acting as judge, jury and executioner.
Still, It’ll save me a bob or two in CL tickets – sometimes you have to look on the bright side._____________________________
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Possible Premier League points deduction also possible…(can we make it for last year?)
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There is more to this than we know, City are UEFA scapegoat IF the Arbitration Board is truly independent of UEFA and FiFa then I think City will feel confident since they have that option. In the meantime UEFA may back track because what they really want is CASH, so they will rack up the millions in a fine
I have always believed there is a strong anti Brit agenda, maybe an anti Arabic as well. A lot of groans about foreign ownership, so, where are the British investors???? (Going for HS2 and public projects investors where they can screw us) Like I said…there is more to this than just City_____________________________
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What Fifa and UEFA need is COMPETION to run the game. A breakaway is a step closer, not because of the City episode but the way the game is managed as a whole
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I suspect 2 years has been used as it actually invites a compromise punishment to 1 year after a possible appeal, or else a 1 year punishment would have been rescinded to nothing.
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This has been bubbling for a long time and City have seemingly been trying to scare UEFA off with the threat of law suits etc.
I don’t agree at all that UEFA will back down on this City have been found guilty of some serious breaches of the rules no matter where and how the evidence may have been obtained the situation has gone past UEFA now and City’s only avenue is to appeal to CAS.
Without seeing all the evidence but going on some of what has been leaked you would imagine that City’s best opportunity may be to get the ban decreased to a season
Worse still Sky are currently reporting that the PL are looking into this and may apply points deductions which could if that happened potentially strip City of titles?
And finally where will this all leave Pep and is the fact that he’s yet to commit himself past next season tied in to all this.
All looking pretty serious but I would suggest none of us are in a position to claim that City are either being unfairly treated or that they fully deserve what’s happening when none of us are really aware of all of the facts.
There’s an awtul lot more water to flow under the Bridge on all of this yet imo.
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Of course the other interesting aspect of all this is that it potentially opens up 5th place for a CL place?
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I’m not sure on the posts by City fans on here. Everyone knew it was happening and it was only a matter of time before it caught up on you. Blaming it on UEFA being corrupt for your own illegal activities? Blaming it on an anti Arabic agenda? Seriously take a look at what you’re writing. City brought this upon themselves by getting greedy by wanting too much too quickly.
I actually feel sorry for the City guys on here you’re a nice group but not at all for the club.
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Give over threeps. City have done nothing “illegal”. They have, supposedly, broke a rule of UEFA. Firstly, I ask you why you think that rule was introduced in the first place. And second, the rule itself flouts European Competition law, effectively disallowing investment of a business owner investing funds in his own business. I think we all know the real reason the rule was introduced, don’t we?
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I think everyone should hold fire until the City appeal has been heard. There’s truth in what City say they’ve been charged investigated and judged by UEFA let this go to an Independent judgement by CAS with the evidence put forward from both sides.
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hmmmm pretty serious stuff if true and, yes, 5th spot gets into the CL based on the article. Some damning email evidence held from what this says.
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Illegal in context of the rules of the sport. Bad choice of word I admit.
I’ve a pretty good idea why these rules were introduced, would love to know what yours is.
Sorry Nine I know you try your best to keep a harmonious atmosphere but sometimes the occasional confrontational debate is actually a good thing as long as people do not cross the line. Im sure a few of us, me included, have had strong views or suspected this would come to light for a while now, so I dont think just waiting before we discuss this is an option.
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“Give over threeps. City have done nothing βillegalβ.”
This is not the same thing as saying that they haven’t broken the laws of the game. They’ve been deemed guilty of being in breach of the sports rules and have been given a very severe punishment. I understand that you’re upset and I would be too. I honestly think I’d say the exact same kinds of things are you but it does appear that City are guilty. UEFA aren’t going to take a several year long investigation and then charge them willy-nilly. They will have the evidence they need and it’ll probably come out.
I mean, this investigation aside, it was clear that something was seriously off with the “sponsorship” deals that were announced way back when. I forget but wasn’t one of them for 400m or something totally insane like that?
I also don’t buy this UEFA conspiracy thing. I’m definitely not looking to upset people here but come on, we’re better than this.
As for the PL points reduction. If this were to come to pass, we’d be handed the PL title for last season, which would feel really odd and maybe Utd would be given the one for the year before. I CAN’T IMAGINE HOW SMUG JOSE WOULD GET OVER THIS. I can totally see Klopp refusing the title also, or trying to. Wow, that would also mean that Liverpool 97 points would be the highest tally ever. The possible fallout from this could be massive but TBH, we don’t really know for sure if the PL are even interested in this.
I have mixed emotions about this whole thing but if the evidence that they’ve been gaming the system and juicing, irrefutably then I think we should be handed the PL title for last season. They didn’t do anything against the law but they’d have committed the sporting equivalent to fraud and that’s just too serious to let fly.
All eyes on the CAS now though. They will come at this with an approach that favours the rights of Man City. They’ll clear it up.
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Wait 30 years for a title and two come along at once… Kloop is a genius!! π
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Actually it seems that it would be Rodger’s title challenge. So Gerrard would be a PL winner afterall ha!
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So Man City over egg the value of a bit of sponsorship and get handed a Β£25m fine and a 2 year European football ban, sort of puts into context UEFAβs priorities when it comes to racism, sexism, homophobia etc,,,,,,Pagan
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So where does this all end? City are about to play a Carabao Cup Final against Villa. Did they get there fairly? Should United not take their place? A sour taste on that one when they no doubt win it.
They are about to play Real Madrid in the knock out stages of the CL. Were the other three group teams on the same equal playing field as City and would the third placed team feel cheated?
The grounds for complaint appear endless.
Simply cooking the books enabled greater investment on an already powerful squad than entitled to.
Wow.
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Can Chelsea fans really claim the moral high ground when it comes to teams spending more than they “earn”, i.e. spunking hundreds of millions of pounds of their owners money on players? I don’t think so, if I’m to be honest.
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