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  • #83508
    Chelsea.man
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      Amz

      How can assist be misleading? against Spurs, I watched the post-match assessment, and every football pundit I watched was waxing lyrics on Barkley’s performance, the only exception in his last five matches has been the Bayern one. against Spurs, he had an assist and nearly scored only the goalpost denied him the goal, against Liverpool he had a goal and an assist, against Everton he had two assists. that shows he is hitting form at the right time. the days of Frank Lampard like midfield is long gone. so I’m happy with Barkley’s recent performance but the challenge is, can he maintain that week in week out?

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      #83519
      nine nine nine
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        The problem with Barkley is that he’s been consistent at being inconsistent and one of his biggest faults has been his ability to give the ball away too cheaply which has cost us possession and occasionally goals conceded.

        Everton was his best game for Chelsea and there have been some positive signs in his last few games too but he needs to be getting close to his performance v Everton on a consistent basis.

        He may have changed Frank’s mind from likely to be moved on to a question mark but it will depend on how he performs during the run in.

        The Barkley we saw v Everton is a stayer imo but to be fair Everton were very poor and much bigger challenges lie ahead.

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        #83522
        Amz
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          He passed the ball 3 yards, big deal. His ball for Peds is more like an assist i would mention.

          Chelseaman we want to compete with the big boys and i dont believe Barkley is at that level. Hes already shown how bad he has been. Just you watch ovee the next few games how bad he will be. As 9 said, he will lose the ball cheaply and disrupt our flow.

          We have a healthy pool of CMs in Kov, Kante Jorg Mount and now Gilmour. I would sell Jorg and Barks and go after Coutinho but only for a maximum of £60m

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          #83529
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            AMZ… Kante, Gillmore, coutinho, mount… lacking height that AMZ… Remember when we had wise, Peacock, Stein and John Spencer in the same team. We were called the diddymen! 🙂

            Not a fan of Coutinho mate, no idea why, I just think great going forward but any good defending? Should throw it open to the pool fans. Good player though.

            From your list id be moving Jorginho, Kovacic (although ive panned him, he can play and doesnt give the ball away as cheaply as Barkley can. I just think we might be whitnessing a penny drop moment from Barkley. He’s been bang on form the last few games, in part because he’s driving from a middle position. Fingers crossed he stays injury free because he could realise the enormous talent that saw us linked with a 50 million pound move when he was in his early 20’s. England could do with midfield options like him, so can Chelsea. Anyhow, Franks call ultimately and given how we appear to be turning a corner at the right time, in frank I trust.

            Amazing what billy the kid has done for seasoned professionals.

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            #83541
            nine nine nine
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              Ampadu to come back too.?

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              #83543
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                Amz

                Did I read you say you would go for Coutinho? you will never have back the Coutinho that was at Liverpool, that has varnished long ago mate. I will be surprised if Chelsea goes anywhere near him unless he is available on loan with a view of a permanent move. because buying him on his current form is not only a risk, it is also a bad signing.

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                #83545
                nine nine nine
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                  I agree with Amz as a Club we are missing a Coutinho type player whether that’s Coutinho himself, whether Barca would sell him for a knockdown fee and whether Coutinho could recapture something close to his Liverpool form are all the questions open to conjecture. As well as most importantly does Frank fancy him?

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                  #83547
                  nine nine nine
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                    Chelsea teenager Ian Maatsen signs new long-term deal as youth revolution continues at Stamford Bridge.

                    More good news.

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                    #83550
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                      Nine

                      I think we are missing a player of Hazard’s talents who could dribble opponents when they tighten between the lines and since Coutinho rallies on vision, I don’t think he will add anything to our current. and his form since he left Liverpool has been terrible, add that to his lack of physical traits and his poor work-rate. even Bayern said they won’t take the permanent option. and Barcelona is desperate to offload him.

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                      #83909
                      Amz
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                        CMan – there is nobody like Hazard available other than Sancho and he isn’t yet as good as Hazard was for us. I’m looking at realistic targets. Coutinho will go for sub £100m. As i said, anything up to £60m is good for Coutinho. He’s value has gone down. Maybe £70m max.

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                        #84744
                        nine nine nine
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                          Flag of AlbaniaArmando Broja
                          Flag of EnglandTino Anjorin
                          Flag of EnglandMarc Guehi
                          Flag of EnglandCallum Hudson-Odoi
                          Flag of EnglandReece James
                          Flag of EnglandTariq Lamptey
                          Flag of NetherlandsIan Maatsen
                          Flag of ScotlandBilly Gilmour
                          Flag of EnglandMason Mount
                          Flag of EnglandFikayo Tomori
                          Flag of EnglandTammy Abraham
                          Flag of DenmarkAndreas Christensen

                          12 Chelsea Academy players have featured in the Chelsea first team this season.

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                          #84996
                          Pagan
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                            Chelsea sign 14 year old Leo Castledine from Wimbledon, one of football’s one to watch apparently….Pagan

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                            #85537
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                              Life is more important than football, and the decision to cancel all matches is the right decision. although this will halt the momentum that we had been building in our last two matches, but still that is the right decision.

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                              #85538
                              Anonymous

                                Pagin I thought we not allowed to sign under 16s? Weren’t we just banned for that.

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                                #85541
                                Pagan
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                                  Moos, it depends on where they come from, there’s all sorts of rules and restrictions concerning that….Pagan

                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51419890

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                                  #86960
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    “Chelsea have reportedly agreed a provisional fee for the transfer of highly-rated young goalkeeper Brad Young.

                                    The 17-year-old, currently on the books at Hartlepool, has been on trial with Chelsea, who are now ready to close the deal after agreeing a provisional fee,” ?

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                                    #86995
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                                      When their game against Chelsea was postponed, Astonvilla has donated their entire staff lunch to the homeless people charity. that is a classic gesture and such humility in this era and age for the club is amazing.

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                                      #89162
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                                        ‘I’m happy to say that in Callum’s case, he has made great progress and almost feels his usual self, which is the news we all want to hear,’
                                        ‘I am of course aware that not everyone can or will recover from this virus, so I urge all of the football and sporting community to continue to act responsibly and look out for the health of others. ‘I want to make it clear that I am no medical expert when it comes to challenging times such as these but please do take the time to call older relatives and vulnerable people who might be alone, or offer to drop round shopping if they can’t get out. Let’s make sure we all take care of each other.
                                        ‘Social distancing can leave us feeling isolated, however, we can continue to support each other even if that means doing it remotely. ‘Of course, we still don’t know when competitive football will restart, but it isn’t worth worrying about that too much at the moment. ‘We all miss football, but right now it’s about acting responsibly and in the best interests of society. I am sure I wasn’t the only one who found myself in a strange place with no sport this weekend, but ultimately none of that matters when we consider the bigger picture.’
                                        Frank Lampard

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                                        #92221
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                                          Seems like United have won Sancho’s signature. and I thank the Lord for that. £120m for Sancho is not what we should rush to.

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                                          #92228
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                                            Are there more positives than negatives about halting the season to be possibly re-started or scrapped?

                                            Yes:
                                            1) more time to work on his team shape when we don’t have the ball.
                                            2) More time to work one the defensive side to the teams game. Set piece defending, pressing etc
                                            3) More time to look at prospects videos and reports of players out on loan who could come back and fit in
                                            4) Time to sit with the board and draw up potential targets we will need
                                            5) time to sit with players running down contracts and possibly sign them up for another season or two
                                            6) work on more defence, defence, defence,
                                            7) work on long range shooting for midfielders and wide players.
                                            8) work on crossing and positions offensively in the box.

                                            No
                                            1) fitness, no match sharpness for any re-start to the league
                                            2) Players being left in limbo over contracts
                                            3) players having heads turned by agent talks with other clubs.
                                            4) Revenue streams being hit going forward

                                            More generally, Im not sure how smaller league clubs are going to survive with lost revenue. The impact down the leagues will be felt for a number of seasons and some clubs will not survive. So the FA will have to look at criteria for points deductions and insolvency cases. Essentially, we could be watching football clubs forced to re-design their business models. Given the money in the game, there is no reason why smaller clubs should go to the wall.

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