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  • #60563
    nine nine nine
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      Chelseaman, I’m not sure where you get £20/£30m for Dunk Christmas is over.?

      The suggested fee in all the reports is somewhere between £40/£50m and allegedly that was the fee Leicester were quoted in the Summer but then again they don’t have Marina so you never know!?

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      #60575
      nine nine nine
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        If Rangers want to borrow Connor Gallagher send him up there I can’t think of anyone better for Gallagher to learn from than Steven Gerrard.

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        #60583
        Chelsea.man
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          I totally disagree with you there Nine. on the contrary, I would send him a PL team that will give him significant game time.

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          #60584
          nine nine nine
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            Tbh I would be happy either way Chelseaman. I just think as an attacking midfielder Gallagher would learn a lot from playing under Gerrard for 5 months that’s all.

            We’ll have to wait and see what all the options are and what Gallagher and the Club decide.

            Latest news suggests “Conor Gallagher is set to join Swansea City on loan until the end of the season after he was recalled from his previous spell at Charlton Athletic.

            Gallagher, though, has chosen to reunite with Swans boss Steve Cooper, under whom he won the Under-17 World Cup in 2017.

            Cooper’s side are currently sixth in the Championship and on track for a place in the play-offs while Charlton have been increasingly sucked towards the relegation zone having recorded just one win from their last 11 games.

            As well as Cooper, Gallagher will also be reunited with two of his team-mates from the World Cup win in India, with Marc Guehi and Rhian Brewster having already moved to the Liberty Stadium on loan this month.

            Guehi joined Swansea last week in a six-month loan deal with an option to extend it for a further season, and Goal has learned that Gallagher will have a similar option included within his own deal.

            Gallagher is highly regarded at Stamford Bridge and is seen as a candidate to follow in the footsteps of Tammy Abraham, Mason Mount and Fikayo Tomori in graduating to the first-team in west London.”Goal.com ???

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            #60590
            Amz
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              I don’t think PL clubs would give Gallagher a chance in the first team CM. The league is tight and clubs in the bottom half can’t gamble on youngsters they don’t know well. It would be a waste for him. He will more than likely start every game for Swansea. If he lights up the Championship then the next step would be Premier League.

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              #60601
              maverick1973
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                I really hope you beat us to K2,he will be 29 shortly and Napoli are demanding close to £100m to sell.

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                #60602
                nine nine nine
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                  Mav, personally I would be amazed if Roman was prepared to sanction anything like a £100m bid for Koulibaly especially given his age and his lack of any resell value.

                  Although the counter argument to that is that what if Koulibaly had the same effect on Chelsea as VVD had on Liverpool would that make it a worthwhile investment?

                  Still very unlikely though imo. Cheers 9’s

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                  #60604
                  maverick1973
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                    9s-Next time you are in Kensington having caviar & drinking champagne worth £50k per bottle with Roman,tell him that there is a cheaper option called Maguire,£80m will do it,lol.

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                    #60608
                    Anonymous

                      Jose has spent 1.8 billion on transfers, pep, Carlo and Wenger more than one billion… says some football facebook webcast.

                      Maguire goes for 80m… and lets face it, with a nickname like slab head, isnt very good.

                      Chelsea fans are clamouring to spend money the club doesnt have according to financial reports… even factoring in next season etc etc… We sadly need to keep the players we have, let the ones who are out of contract leave in the summeror pick up some cash now for them, and replace with our young and perhaps spend 80 million max on three or four players.. That’s how I see things going… We’re looking at the championship, I’d be looking at old players who’ve left as well that played or were around the side that is coming through.

                      Im more than happy for Lampard and Morris to bring through more talent and see where it goes between now and the summer and even through next season. Were starting to look more solid through defence and midfield and that’s players performing and having a settled back line. The answers to our defensive issues are in the club.

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                      #60609
                      nine nine nine
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                        Mav, lol. I’m just waiting for Roman to get his visa back. 🙂

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                        #60612
                        maverick1973
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                          Chelsea fans are clamouring to spend money the club doesnt have according to financial reports Roman is skint?Lol
                          What happened to over £100m you got for the little Belgian magician,plus how much for Morata,and if DrinkH2O ,Michy,Pedri,Giroud,Zapa,Alonso,gets sold???

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                          #60635
                          nine nine nine
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                            Mav. you’re right of course and despite the very disappointing circa £100m loss from last year’s accounts the previous years accounts showed a profit of £62m.

                            The latest accounts reflect the exceptional payment of nearly £30m to Conte and his staff and no CL football which will probably make a £60m positive differential to this year’s accounts also there were heavy purchases made in the last financial year of Kepa, Jorginho and Pulisic costing circa £180m between them and unusually for Chelsea no significant player sales to balance that.

                            As you say there is circa £100m from the sale of Hazard to go into this year’s financials and the near £60m to come in for Morata.

                            Then as you say there are the potential sales of the likes of Alonso and Michy next Summer to add in so I don’t see any real problems and that seems to be reflected in the targets the Club are currently being linked to.

                            Let’s see what happens over the next couple of transfer windows Frank is on record as saying he’s looking to bring players in in January but he will only bring in players that add to the current quality of the squad which won’t be easy in January.

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                            #60637
                            nine nine nine
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                              Good move for Gallagher and Chelsea imo he will playing under Steve Cooper who he knows from England and who clearly wanted him and Gallagher will be playing with fellow England U17 players in Brewster and Guehi too who he won the U17 World Cup with.

                              Much better to play for a Championship side going for promotion rather than one fighting relegation or a PL side with limited games and hopefully Gallagher will get regular games at Swansea.

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                              #60687
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                                Mav… Looking at the list of players we’re linked to, CFC simply couldnt afford a big outlay. 9’s list the reasons why this season this season. FFP is being adhered to by us.

                                Willian, Giroud, Pedro are out of contract and will leave for free unless they sign a new contract. that means they’ll all need replacing. Michy will most likely be sold.. Drinkwater and zappacosta wont fetch very much more than the club paid for them.
                                Victor Moses will net the club a loan fee but has been injured in Turkey.

                                So, we’re linked with Dunk 50 million. Koulibaly at 100 million. Bale at 50 million and Sancho at 100 million. The club were interested in Pietek at one stage under previous management, Weiner or whoever it is and others are all going to cost upwards fo 50 million. The clubs war chest wont stretch too far mate given the absolute nonsense players are commanding in transfer fees. Hence why I think the club will simply promote from within and probably sign one perhaps two players between now and in the summer.

                                It should also be noted that Callum Hudson Odoi has set a new wage mark at the club for the young and the likes of Abraham and James and others will all be looking for that sort of salary so the outgoing fall in wages will be picked up by younger players. Its all numbers on a spreadsheet, let the club make sense of them, but CFC operating at the top of the transfer tree competing with Madrids and PSG etc is over. The youth team points the way forward.

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                                #60690
                                steveosnakeeye
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                                  its weird with CHO, he was all th talk for a while under the previous mnaager and not getting played and maybe losing him, he then either hasnt featured much or done much when he has especially compared to the likes of Abraham and Mount, i think he has been eclpised and yet he is the one pulling in the big bucks having not earned or deserved it, its this kind of deals in clubs that make rods for our own backs…..

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                                  #60695
                                  nine nine nine
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                                    Stevo, I think the Club was between a rock and a hard place with Hudson Odoi with Bayern’s overt pursuit of him pre injury which bordered on tapping up imo Chelsea were faced with losing a very valuable young player nurtured at the Club from the age of 8 for somewhere between peanuts and nothing because of his contract situation.

                                    There’s been a lot talked about what CHO is earning and I warned at the time we could be making a for for our own back in offering what we allegedly did in relation to keeping the other young players happy and that might still be the case, to a certain extent as always none of us really know as to what the truth is in respect of CHO’s package I’ve read from various sources that a large slice of it is incentives based and reliant on both personal a club success. That makes sense and I hope that’s the case.

                                    I guess the good news in terms of wages is that we shed circa £20m pa with the transfers of Hazard and Luiz.

                                    As for Hudson Odoi’s form it’s been more than patchy since his return from injury but to be fair he did have a very serious injury which I think affected his mentality too but there have been promising signs over his last couple of games that he’s getting back to his best pre injury he looked an outstanding prospect and if ultimately we get that player back and at his age he develops even further it will probably be money well invested. Cheers 9’s

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                                    #60698
                                    steveosnakeeye
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                                      yeah i wasnt sure on the exact circumstances hence i was fairly reticent in my post and didnt know the type of injury, there is no doubt he has talent and COUDL become a big big player, unfortunately i think the circumstances, definatly not helpes by Bayern turned his head, maybe he felt right at the time under Sarri but for me the other youth players you have have shown the way and mentality that is needed, to remain humble and hardowrking and not think youve made it when you havent! from the outside i wonder about his mantality and all the extra cash has done other than keep a talent that as yet has not proved himself or repaid that faith is causepotential upset with other youngesters who actually do deserve the cash he has.

                                      such is life tho, you made a decision and could yet still be a good one, if he fulfills his potential then you will have a proper home grown world star, if his head istn right he could go the way of many others who never quite realise that potential and fade away…

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                                      #60702
                                      Chelsea1967
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                                        Some players never come back from serious injuries as good as they were and that was my concern with CHO however as you say 999 the last couple of performances have shown me that there is better to come. To be fair though previously he was either not playing at all or coming on as a sub and that puts the pressure on him before he has even kicked a ball. Providing he stays healthy I think next season will present us moreso with the quality player we believe he will become. The same will be the case with RLC. This season the club is exceeding its own expectations. Frank, Jody and the team should be excited for the future and very proud. Restrictive buying in this window will give the players more confidence in the fact the club believes in them.

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                                        #60712
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                                          Stevo… I was happy to see the club cash in on CHO. I think his head was turned and he had his heart set on the move and he would have run down his contract until last summer when hed have had chelsea and bayern eating out his hand. His injury ended his dream move. Ive said he plays and links up well with Willian, so good to see them both start recently as they improve each other and CHO has to play himself into form which might be happening now.

                                          But to be honest, he has a mercenary streak and I reckon he’ll be agitating to move on in 18 months if the Lampard project derails at any time. IMO he still has to earn the trust back from fans after holding the club to ransom last season.

                                          His injury and the fact CFC set up differently under Lamps as they did under Sarri might also be why hes struggling. Sarri’s system favours wingers heavily. We saw with Hazard, CHO and now Ronaldo this season how he improves wide players… Sarri to Barca and CHO following. You read it hear first. 😉

                                          Is Pepe settling with you lot yet?

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                                          #60714
                                          steveosnakeeye
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                                            Pepe…..i think he is only now just starting to settle, its not often easdy for anyone to join a new club and league let alone under the issues we had, i think arteta will help him settle and adjust, for me he gets a free pass this year but id like to see improvements, he has shown it in patches and he likes to take defenders on and has a decent cross and free kick…

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